It might actually be worth valgrinding.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Derrick Brashear <sha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Marcus Watts <m...@umich.edu> wrote:
>> Derrick Brashear <sha...@gmail.com> sent:
>>
>>> Date:    Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:02:33 EDT
>>> To:      Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu>
>>> cc:      openafs-i...@openafs.org
>>> From:    Derrick Brashear <sha...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Ubik problem
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>>> > Andrew Deason <adea...@sinenomine.net> writes:
>>> >> Atro Tossavainen <atro.tossavainen+open...@helsinki.fi> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>> Derrick,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > I'd suggest just using the IBM binary for the kaserver (and only the
>>> >>> > kaserver) in your OpenAFS installation
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That's an interesting thought, but unfortunately it's nowhere near
>>> >>> an option. =A0sunx86_ is quite simply not a supported platform for
>>> >>> IBM AFS at all, even at 3.6 Patch 19 (August 2009).
>>> >
>>> >> Older OpenAFS releases could be another option, but I don't know how
>>> >> useful of an answer that is. I'm not sure what could have caused that,
>>> >> so I don't have a particular range in mind; maybe just earlier 1.4...
>>> >> 1.4.9? 1.4.2?
>>> >
>>> > We were successfully running a 1.2.x version of kaserver on SPARC Solaris=
>>> ,
>>> > and upgrading to 1.4.2 on Linux failed (albeit with different symptoms; i=
>>> t
>>> > would just stop successfully giving out tickets for a while and then come
>>> > back, regularly), so we stuck with 1.2.x on SPARC until we turned it off
>>> > entirely.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure it "broke" between 1.2.11 and 1.4.1.
>>>
>>> --=20
>>> Derrick
>>
>> Gah.  You made me drag out my kaserver notes!  Worse!  You made me
>> *run* the thing!  Bad!  Bad!
>>
>> "broke" is a pretty vague description, so...
>>
>> From the previous descriptions, it sounds like there might be ubik sync 
>> issues.
>
> That's not what I was referring to. I think it's between ubik database
> reads and the clients.
>
>> That could be caused either by problems in ubik, or unrelated problems
>> that cause server crashes.  The reports do not include notes on any resulting
>> core dumps, and the ubik problem reports clearly indicate another serious
>> problem with server address determination.
>>
>> I experimented with building a version of 1.2.11, running it and using some
>> of the diagnostic tools, followed by trying to run the resulting database 
>> with
>> 1.4.12.  I certainly didn't thoroughly explore things.  I now have an 
>> interesting
>> list of "problems".
>>
>> /1/ ubik_hdr.size got changed to be a short, not a long.  ntohl is wrong.  
>> This
>>        is in ubik proper as well as kaserver diagnostics.  Fortunately, this
>>        doesn't seem to break too much.
>> /2/ udebug address output byte swap issues.  Previously mentioned as fixed.
>> /3/ kadb_check complains about a lot of stuff, and the output does not
>>        make much sense.  A lot of this looks like endian issues, but
>>        also I think this tool probably started as a temporary hack and
>>        never well cleaned up.  The output was probably never really
>>        'clean" in the first place.
>> /4/ I never got kaserver to core dump (granted, I'm not pushing it real 
>> hard.)
>>
>> I think at least in some basic way, the kaserver in 1.4.12 still "works".
>> So I am still curious as to what Derrick meant by "broke".
>>
>> possible generic action items,
>> /1/ fix uhdr.size usage issues. (ntohs/htons not ntohl/htonl).
>> /2/ fix kadb_check to produce correct output.  Should match on little
>>        and big-endian machines.
>> /3/ fix kadb_check to produce "better" output?
>>
>> For Atro Tossavainen, I think my recommendations are:
>> /1/ can he only run one source version of kaserver on all db hosts (not a
>>        mixed ibm/openafs env),
>> /2/ can he resolve the server setup such that when udebug is
>>        run, it only reports "correct" IP addresses?  (Ideally only
>>        the primary, but the other interfaces should be ok so long
>>        as packets sent through them get to the same place.)
>> /3/ can he resolve time so that he never sees "last beacon sent -3 secs 
>> ago"?,
>>        ubik does care, even more than kerberos, about time.
>> /4/ can he resolve his keyfile reference such that he never gets
>>        "unknown key version number"?
>>        (My suspicion, he's got path issues between differently built 
>> binaries.)
>
> no, because i suspect 4 is the "real issue"
>
>
> --
> Derrick
>



-- 
Derrick
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