You sure? Using Hibernate or any other ORM technology to implement "CFC Persistence" is one solution to the problem, but not necessarily the best one.
-----Original Message----- From: Alan Williamson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 4 December 2009 7:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OpenBD] curious about openbd orm Andrew Scott wrote: > So you are saying you want to reinvent the wheel? > That would be a very game move in my opinion. That isn't what Vince said at all. What Vince was saying, was to look at the end goal -- what is ORM actually providing the CFML developer. What is the problem we are solving and then, ONLY THEN, do we look at the HOW. I think we'll all agree that sometimes even other major CFML engines get it wrong with their implementation. Not everything they kick out is perfect or even well thought out. CFSCRIPT is your classic. Their recent Spreadsheet integration is a complete mess, which is a shame because they could have done so much better. So, for ORM, as it is such an advance feature that I am sure the vast majority of CFML developers will not use, isn't going to be picked up instantly and may take many years to realise the real power. Therefore there is no panic to rush to support a feature that another engine is offering. There is time to have discussions and open dialogue to figure out what people really need as oppose to what they think they need. I have no view either way. There has been no discussion as to what we are doing, merely a tick on a list to say "yeah we should look at that someday when someone brings it up". You've brought it up. Great. Discussions like these in open forums is _vital_ to the success of the CFML language. A reason I believe the CFML Language Advisory Panel should be a public discussion mailing list, and not a private affair. But my views on how that process can run can be left to another day. So debate, discuss, lets hear what you have to say when it comes to ORM. -- Open BlueDragon Public Mailing List http://www.openbluedragon.org/ http://twitter.com/OpenBlueDragon mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en !! save a network - please trim replies before posting !! -- Open BlueDragon Public Mailing List http://www.openbluedragon.org/ http://twitter.com/OpenBlueDragon mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en !! save a network - please trim replies before posting !!
