absolutely --- Vince is merely inviting us all to rethink about the 
actual problem and look at what serves CFML developers best.   Nothing 
ruled out.

For me, i don't know we have the PROBLEM defined yet.  For me, ORM is 
just another framework that snuck into the core engine!  ;)

we have to be careful not to alienate people -- just because a solution 
doesn't utilise ORM, doesn't mean it is less valuable or useful.   It is 
merely another string to the infinite bow that is software development.

Andrew Scott wrote:
> You sure?
>
> Using Hibernate or any other ORM technology to implement "CFC Persistence"
> is one solution to the problem, but not necessarily the best one.

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