On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Sean Corfield <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Matthew Woodward <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Alan Holden <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Are all the CFML-based wikis *that* lacking? >>> >> Compared to MediaWiki, absolutely. >> > > Sadly true. The same can be said of CFML-based blogs compared to WordPress > and of CFML-based CMS systems compared to Drupal / Joomla / {insert widely > used FOSS CMS}. > Just to expand on this, I flip-flop on this issue in my mind quite a bit but the question is always do we reinvent the wheel just so we can say "me too, but in CFML!" or do we focus on other things? (This ambivalence is why ColdTonica, which is a CFML clone of identica/StatusNet, got abandoned for the time being.) Where MediaWiki is concerned specifically, I'm not sure how you compete with the thousands of man hours put into that application, and the big question is why you'd want to if you want a wiki for a project. But, as I said, I'm extremely torn on this issue. I totally get building something to promote your language. The trick is it has to stand up against stuff that has a lot more development hours and adoption (and therefore bug fixes, and user feedback leading to improvements, and so the virtuous cycle goes ...), though there's some value in building common apps (blog, wiki, etc.) to help people learn the finer points of the language, architecture, etc. on a "real" application, and my inner conflict is coming out already. :-) I guess my point is unless you have a decent-sized team of developers dedicated to building a wiki, for example, it'd be really difficult for a single developer in their spare time (which is the norm for FLOSS CFML projects) to ever match something like MediaWiki. When you look at something like Mura that's a bit different since there's a company behind it, and at least in my experience Mura is one of the world-class apps of which Sean speaks since it can stand up against commercial CFML options like CommonSpot, or the standards (mostly PHP) like Drupal and Joomla. Anyway, this is one of those big discussions we as a community need to be having on a regular basis because, at least if you ask me today, I think there's better ways to spend our time than building more watered-down me too apps that only one developer works on and eventually get abandoned. Having written a few of those myself I feel OK in putting it that way. ;-) -- Matthew Woodward [email protected] http://blog.mattwoodward.com identi.ca / Twitter: @mpwoodward Please do not send me proprietary file formats such as Word, PowerPoint, etc. as attachments. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- official tag/function reference: http://openbd.org/manual/ mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en
