Hey thanks!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Alan Williamson <[email protected]> wrote:
> man did this thread get off track ...
>
> Matthew Woodward wrote:
>>
>> ... or I can focus on the real goal of this specific effort which is to
>> document the crap out of OpenBD and by extension CFML, which to me in the
>> long run will be far more beneficial to the global community
>
> For my own part, I feel we all need to take our place in the eco-system and
> let it evolve.   We can't do everything.  I agree with Matt here, focusing
> at the grass roots and if we provide the necessary document, guidance and
> high quality engine then let others come in and build the next big thing.
>
> Personally I feel CFML has focused way too much in the past on frameworks
> and not enough on the end solutions.   CFML's past is littered with ghosts
> of frameworks past, and I really do roll my eyes when I hear of new ones
> that are going to do what others failed to do, change the world etc.   We've
> all heard it.
>
> The problem here is that too much energy being burned for a very niche
> market place - dare I say, incestuous.  I would wager that the majority of
> users of frameworks are existing CFML developers.  Isn't CFML already
> framework?
>
> What we need is that "php" ah-ha moment.   This is a world that has managed
> to get away with a lot less technology than CFML, a hell of lot less
> frameworks (there really is only one major one in this world and even that
> one has its issues) yet it managed to be accessible and available for anyone
> to literally hack away at a page or two.
>
> I use a number of apps (mediawiki, phpMyAdmin) and i couldn't give a toss
> that its written in php.  For me, its not the technology its the end app.
> We need to become fanatical about our end apps and less about the language.
>
> We've all tried the technology sell ... that hasn't worked.
> We've all tried literally selling the engine for $$$ ... that hasn't worked.
> Adobe is a shadow of its former self in this CFML world ... they have all
> but abandoned it.
>
> We're a shrinking market yet I feel we have time to turn it around.
>
> Time to try something different.   We need a "App World for CFML" and we
> need it populated with high quality useful apps.   I do not buy the argument
> that everything has already been developed.   In many respects this is a
> perfect time to re-focus on the big beasts and provide the 20% of
> functionality that people actually use (look at how basecamp for example is
> big on less-is-more mentality).
>
> As we have shown with OpenBD Desktop, shipping CFML apps is a piece of cake
> when you can get up and running so quickly (it is our biggest download
> bundle).
>
> I applaud Jason King for the apps he is building up ... but we need 1000x
> "Jason King"'s all churning out useful end-user applications that are
> consumed by people who don't really care what its written in.
>
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