I'll start off by saying I was Posting on the gae mailing list about this
very issue. However it's not that straight forward and the engineering
effort of supporting it i gather is reasonably significant by comparison to
the number that use it and the fact that it can break again at any point
and u have little influence to get it fixed quickly.

I agree it's attractive but don't think for most folk it's just about
putting your app on there and running it.

No traditional db
No file system access well limited with a virtual system created.

Which means some engineering with gae in
Mind. Ultimately you're right it's a differentiator but how many people use
it really vs chucking up some free apps and tinkering.

The fact is now there are other PAAS Vendors out there now that don't need
a special openbd version for example jelastic and cloudbees

I'd like to see it continue to be supported but I wouldnt blame Alan and co
if they said nope life's to short to invest in a single platform
compatibility lets use the time to enhance the engine. Ultimately had we
been locked out for a week or month I might think differently.

My 2p

A


On Wednesday, 18 January 2012, james <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Matthew,
>
> Thanks for the prompt response.
>
> I really feel that the GAE feature of OpenBD is of paramount
> importance, I see Google's GAE platform as becoming a key player in
> the cloud computing space. One of the joys of cfml development is the
> speed at which we can develop applications. For me this often leads to
> small applications which I'm at pains to dispose of and reluctant to
> pay for traditional hosting. GAE allows me to very quickly deploy my
> applications to the cloud and pay very little, normally flying within
> the free tier. Within hours I can have eclipse set up, test my app and
> deploy straight from eclipse to the cloud where it can be viewed
> worldwide. Removing tremendous barriers to deployment associated with
> traditional hosting and licensing.
>
> I'm not aware of many cloud computing alternatives, yes you can start
> an amazon ec2 instance but that involves maintaining a full server.
> Adobe's offering of course involves spending money and license
> complications. If you're questioning why use GAE at all when there are
> other cloud offerings out there, you could (without meaning to sound
> rude) ask the same question of BD completely. Bottom line this feature
> gives you a leg up on your competition which shouldn't be ignored.
>
> I understand that of course GAE means a dependency for you folks who
> are good enough to program and distribute openBD and consequently you
> are reluctant to continue GAE integration at all. I think however It's
> a valuable feature and any feature expansion over your competition
> leads to a better overall product and larger user base. Any new
> application or feature requires some maintenance and to be honest you
> could do much worse that having Google themselves as a dependency. As
> you yourself mention, hopefully GAE evolving from beta and in fact now
> charging for some tiers means they themselves are settling down and
> taking it much more seriously.
>
> I regret that as I mentioned my Java skills are in no way production
> ready otherwise I'd be much more committed to a project I'm obviously
> passionate about.
>
> Hope this goes someway to persuading you and Alan, or at least getting
> my point of view across that GAE is a good thing to be invested in.
>
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