Hi Jim, I totally agree that, in principle, Lojban could have a huge number of applications involving human-machine interaction ... and human-human interaction.... If biology and philosophy papers were written in Lojban, knowledge would advance faster...
However I don't currently see a viable route to getting Lojban used by a significant group of humans.... Maybe once we have advanced AGIs, if some geeky people want to communicate with the AGIs in something more closely resembling their native language, they will learn a future version of Lojban to do so? ;0 On the other hand, as an internal tool within significantly logic-focused AI systems, I can increasingly see a quite practical near-term usage.... Potentially this usage will -- in some way we can't exactly foresee right now -- lead to human adoption in some subcommunity as well... but if it just helps us get to AGI a bit faster and better, that's good enough ;) ... -- Ben -- Ben On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Jim Rutt <jimr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I like this idea very much. I'm currently considering Lojban as a > "knowledge engineering" language for a "really smart AI for games" project > I'm starting to spin up. Prior to full on AGI I see some fruitful problems > to be solved using "sort of AGIish" software that depends on human created > domain specific declarative knowledge. My hypothesis is that there is a > useful and talented - and not too expensive - class of human talent that can > learn Lojban well who would not be appropriate for using tools that are less > human language-like. These might include very bright but highly > anti-quantitative liberal arts grads. Lojban strikes me as a potentially > quite good adapter between the world of humans and the world of machines. > > ko pilno lo clearer pensi la lojban > > jim > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote: >> >> Here is a modest proposal, which would replace Relex2Logic with >> something vaguely similar in spirit but much superior, >> >> http://wiki.opencog.org/wikihome/index.php/Lojbanic_Relex2Logic >> >> Actually it's a bit closer to the spirit of the bad old RelEx2Frame, >> but with the significant difference that Lojban is a language with >> complete coverage of everyday semantics, whereas FrameNet is sorely >> limited and hasn't been honed by usage... >> >> -- Ben >> >> >> -- >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >> http://goertzel.org >> >> Super-benevolent super-intelligence is the thought the Global Brain is >> currently struggling to form... > > > > > -- > =========================== > Jim Rutt > JPR Ventures > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "opencog" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to opencog+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to opencog@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAPzPGw7p7MKC2d0MucQf8s4AimtSu-rNtkmm8Pprf03iJhJVdA%40mail.gmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org Super-benevolent super-intelligence is the thought the Global Brain is currently struggling to form... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to opencog+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to opencog@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CACYTDBc%2BbW-oXnYtqiYHg_6ZQeVawJghDKhL-jZ6%3DPCmmYyFAw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
