Hmm! yes. i am getting it now. Thanks and regards, Vishnu.
On Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:32:40 UTC+1, linas wrote: > > That makes the problem harder. You still have to somehow deal with > different word-senses for "apple", and in addition, you also need to create > a a model of the mental state of id1. So, if id1 is a child, the > word-sense for "apple" and "sweet" is probably different than if id1 is an > iphone fanboi. This opens a can of worms: what are id1's beliefs and > world-view? > > (and context dependent: did id1 say that while standing in front of a > store-front selling Apple computer products? or while standing in front of > a grocery display?) > > I think this is "solvable", but its at/past the cutting-edge of what > anyone else is doing with opencog. I've been trying to work on "mental > models" but it's currently hard. > > --linas > > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Vishnu Priya <vishnup...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> I also had an another idea of coupling the sentences along with their id. >> Ex. Why can't i give sentences like "Apples are sweet, said by id1". >> "Farmers are starving, said by id2" .So that i would know which sentence >> has which id. what do you say? >> >> Thanks, >> Vishnu >> >> >> On Monday, 14 November 2016 21:53:56 UTC+1, linas wrote: >> >>> >>> A better design would be to explicitly acknowledge that words have >>> meanings. The way that this is currently done looks roughly like this: >>> >>> (EvaluationLink >>> (PredicateNode "is") >>> (ListLink >>> (ConceptNode "apple@meaning-42") >>> (ConceptNode "fruit@meanning-66") >>> ) >>> ) >>> >>> I hope the above is "obvious": the 42nd kind of meaning of the word >>> "apple" is a kind of "fruit", where by "fruit", we mean the 66th entry in >>> Webster's dictionary. >>> >>> (ReferenceLink >>> (ConceptNode "apple@meaning-42") >>> (WordNode "apple") >>> ) >>> >>> That tells you the actual word that gets used for meaning-42. This is a >>> lexical function https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexical_function >>> >>> (WordInstanceLink >>> (SentencNode "id1") >>> (WordInstanceNode "apple@bf71826c-487e-42df-a941-0ecd3c942a76") >>> ) >>> >>> This tells you that the the word apple occurred in sentence id1 >>> >>> (ReferenceLink >>> (WordInstanceNode "apple@bf71826c-487e-42df-a941-0ecd3c942a76") >>> (ConceptNode "apple@meaning-42") >>> ) >>> >>> This tells you that the word apple in sentence id1 actually corresponds >>> to meaning 42. >>> >>> See? No context link at all. >>> >>> The above oversimplifies things a little bit. Some of the reference >>> links should probably be EvaluationLinks. The lexical functions need to be >>> improved, a lot. The current output is documented here: >>> http://wiki.opencog.org/w/RelEx_OpenCog_format but it could be >>> over-hauled and improved, its not perfect. >>> >>> I believe that the above should work well with PLN, but that remains to >>> be seen: again Nil is working on this now. >>> >>> --linas >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Vishnu Priya <vishnup...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Linas! >>>> >>>> Thanks for the reply. It's ok. Totally understandable.!! >>>> >>>> Yeah just read about ContextLink on wiki. >>>> >>>> I have a scenario, where i have sentences that i want to give to NLP >>>> Pipeline. Along with sentences, i also have an attribute called id. Like >>>> a >>>> reference for sentence. >>>> Each sentence is associated with an identifier. For me, it would be >>>> useful when i have the sentences parsed along with their id. >>>> Later, say i stimulate and get STI, whatever i do, finally i should be >>>> knowing, to what id the atom belongs to. >>>> >>>> So i thought, with something like below, i might achieve that. >>>> apple is fruit in the context of id1. >>>> (EvaluationLink >>>> (ContextLink id1 >>>> (PredicateNode "is") >>>> (ListLink >>>> (ConceptNode "apple") >>>> (ConceptNode "fruit") >>>> ) >>>> ) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But i don't know, how to input my sentences along with their >>>> identifiers. Is it possible somehow to do such a thing of incorporating >>>> identifiers ? >>>> or is it totally not doable? >>>> >>>> >>>> --vishnu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, 11 November 2016 02:30:44 UTC+1, linas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> sorry just now recovering from system outages and an email overload. >>>>> >>>>> ContextLink and how to use it is documented on the wiki. >>>>> >>>>> Currently it it not used very much, or at all. >>>>> >>>>> ContextLinks only make sense once you know how to asssign meaning to >>>>> things -- syntax parsing of sentences is far too low-level for this, >>>>> because you don't yet know what the word "apple" is. >>>>> >>>>> --linas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Vishnu Priya <vishnup...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Linas, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to know how to use ContextLink. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - The Apple is red in color. >>>>>> - The Headquarters of apple is in California. >>>>>> >>>>>> Each and every sentence of mine has certain context word. >>>>>> I want the former sentence to be parsed along with ContextLink fruit >>>>>> and the later as company. So that later, i can identify which atom >>>>>> belongs >>>>>> to which context. >>>>>> Should i make changes at the parser level? What should i do? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Vishnu >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to opencog+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to opencog@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/a624ec08-0d95-4696-a412-e61724aec69e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
