It just seems like a huge waste of memory to have that EvaluationLink
and PredicateNode for every word in the dictionary (and also a minor
waste of processing time following those links)... this is the sort of
wastage that ProtoAtom should be good at eliminating...
Let's take time to discuss the "momentous" decisions you mention
regarding ProtoAtom while you're in HK this time around...
ben
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Linas Vepstas <linasveps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> Can you explain why you need to have a ChineseWordNode?
>
> A simpler solution is to use EvaluationLinks, as normal:
>
> e.g.
> EvaluatinoLink
> PredicateNode "Cantonese"
> ListLink
> WordNode "jau mou wifi-aaa"
>
> which has the same form as marking the tense, number, mood, etc. of the
> word.
>
> Finishing the protoatom work is not "tedious"; rather, there are a few
> remaining important architectural issues that need to be decided on. They
> are not simple decisions, they've got some strong pro& cons reprecussions,
> which is why that work was deferred. They're decidable, but they are
> "momentous".
>
> --linas
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote:
>>
>> As we embark on more seriously using Lojban within OpenCog... and
>> prepare to embark on putting Chinese there ... I have realized it may
>> be bad that WordNode currently is language-independent...
>>
>> I guess this is probably not the right design (and is a reflection of
>> the fact that we've only dealt with English in the Atomspace so
>> far)...
>>
>> A short-term hack to fix this would be to introduce e.g.
>> EnglishWordNode, ChineseWordNode, etc. as subtypes of WordNode.
>>
>> A less annoying fix ("annoying" because the proliferation of
>> hard-wired Atom types is annoying) would be to complete the ProtoAtom
>> implementation (not fundamentally hard to do, just tedious), which
>> would allow us to have ProtoAtoms indicating "English" and "Chinese"
>> etc. and link them from WordNodes to indicate the language they
>> correspond to....
>>
>> We should discuss moving forward on ProtoAtom during the Cogathon...
>>
>>
>>
>>
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