Hello Bert: As I mentioned in a previous message regarding the creation of this particular arquetype, I?ll be happy to assist.
I?m a general practitioner but I work in a Cardiac Rehabilitation Service (public hospital) so exercise prescription is also important to me. Of course I?ll be happy to translate to spanish. Best regards Domingo Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:09:22 +0100 From: [email protected] To: openehr-clinical at openehr.org Subject: Re: evaluate sport activity I don't know if it is of any use, I am not a medical educated person, I am just a programmer, but with experience in this domain. The case is, that people ask me sometimes, when I tell them about OpenEHR, trying to get some implementation-opportunities, they ask me who will write their archetypes. They expect more or less that I will do that. Of course that cannot be the case, but I have to communicate that message carefully. It is their classical way of application-thinking, single level modeling, in which the programmer needs to understand at least something of the medical domain he is writing for. So sometimes I have to write archetypes, I feel like a GP without education writing a description, but this is part of the dirty business which often hangs around new concepts. I think, I have to write archetypes to work with exercise-prescriptions myself, because I cannot simply download them, and my customer needs them. It is not a very complicated subject and I got some good ideas from this discussion about which entries to use, and how to. If it is of any use, I can post them in the CKM for others to look at them and possibly improve them. I can write them in two languages, English and Dutch. Is this possible? Something in this subject is better than nothing. You can see it as my contribution to the community. (probably as an example how not to do it? ....just kidding!) If this is the case, I can do that next month, when I have to write them. regards Bert Verhees On 22-12-11 03:25, Hugh Leslie wrote: Hi Domingo and all Its really exciting to see people starting to discuss the approach to developing clinical content using archetypes and to see the level of maturity that people like Domingo show in terms of understanding around pulling generic archetypes together to create something more complex like an exercise prescription. I would encourage you all to try to capture this on the CKM application - probably in the forums so that the discussion here is not lost or separated from the content there. regards Hugh On 22/12/2011 3:11 AM, Dr. Domingo Liotta (h) wrote: Hello Ian: Of course!! I can review it. I do VO2max in a cardiac (rehabilitation) service but the techic is the same. Send me the arquetype by email please. I didnt find it searching CKM Best regards Domingo -----Mensaje original----- From: Ian McNicoll Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:40 PM To: For openEHR clinical discussions Subject: Re: evaluate sport activity Hi Domingo, Your suggestions are very appropriate if a very detailed level of exercise surveillance is expected but I am not certain from Bert's description if this is actually needed. I have an example of a pulmonary function test archetype which includes V02max. It might be interesting for you to have a look at it and see if we can it fit enough for review on CKM. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll office +44 (0)1536 414 994 fax +44 (0)1536 516317 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK Director/Clinical Knowledge Editor openEHR Foundation www.openehr.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org On 21 December 2011 14:50, Dr. Domingo Liotta (h) <domingo_liotta at hotmail.com> wrote: Hello Bert: A quick database search revealed that the Arquetype: Level of exertion to be useful as you will need to register the patients ?level of fitness? pre and post training. Also you have the related clinical observations: blood pressure, heart rate, ECG recording It would be useful to create a Borg perception of exercise (subjective) as it correlates well with level of exertion. I can be bold and try to make an Arquetype for: VO2max Testing which is my expertise. I didn?t find any ?exercise prescription? Arquetype. ( I?d like to see that too). I?ll help patch the pieces together if you want. Be well Domingo Liotta -----Mensaje original----- From: Bert Verhees Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:39 AM To: openehr-clinical at openehr.org Subject: evaluate sport activity Hi all, Can someone give me a hint about how I should do following, which kind of entries are most suitable for this? There is a software-requirement, I work with, which says that a patient should do sport, exercises. And to encourage the patient, there must be some kind of decision support, which checks, the exercises the patient has done, and this evalution must be stored for a later look-back how the patient is doing. So, there must be an archetype which is able to decribe the exercise to do, and there must be an archetype for evaluation-results. I only need some hints to look at, so I am not foolish misusing some concepts. I looked at the entry-classes, evaluation, activity, instruction, and so on. But I am not sure which one to use, because in the documentation, the seem to target other purposes. Can someone give me a hint? Thanks Bert Verhees _______________________________________________ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical _______________________________________________ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical _______________________________________________ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical _______________________________________________ openEHR-clinical mailing list openEHR-clinical at openehr.org http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical -- ________________________________________________ Dr Hugh Leslie MBBS, Dip. 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