Hi Mikael,


Ian McNicoll and I have had a number of discussions in recent months with 
IHTSDO to discuss licensing arrangements around SNOMED inclusion in archetypes 
and CKM. This is ongoing and slightly tricky as the licenses need to be with 
end-users of archetypes or CKMs, not just the openEHR Foundation itself.



I agree that it would be great to see some more interaction between the two 
organisations at the data modelling level, and you can see from Thomas' email 
that there have been attempts over the years, but little traction.



I was pleased to see that IHTSDO has developed an expert Modelling Advisory 
Group a few months ago, so much so that I nominated for a position thinking 
that this would be an opportunity to further the inter-organisational 
collaboration, only to be unsuccessful. I wonder if anyone else from openEHR 
nominated and was successful.



I would definitely like to see more collaboration - the end result could be a 
powerful disruption for the 'little data'.



It would also be good to hear that people inside IHTSDO are agitating for more 
engagement with openEHR.



Regards



Heather


Dr Heather Leslie MBBS FRACGP FACHI
Consulting  Lead, Ocean Informatics<http://www.oceaninformatics.com/>
Clinical Programme Lead, openEHR Foundation<http://www.openehr.org/>
p: +61 418 966 670   skype: heatherleslie   twitter: @omowizard







> -----Original Message-----

> From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On

> Behalf Of Thomas Beale

> Sent: Monday, 28 September 2015 2:56 AM

> To: openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org

> Subject: Re: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT)

>

> On 27/09/2015 17:08, Mikael Nyström wrote:

> > Hi Tom,

> >

> > I found the responsible person at IHTSDO for the collaboration with openEHR

> Foundation. According to her, there are active discussions to be able to soon

> sign a collaborative agreement between IHTSDO and openEHR and then

> continue to work with how SNOMED CT and openEHR artefacts practically can

> be used together.

> >

> > IHTSDO also states over and over again that SNOMED CT needs to be

> implemented together with good information models to reach its full potential

> and IHTSDO hosted (at least) the CIMI autumn meeting in Amsterdam last

> year. I therefore don't understand your very negative attitude towards IHTSDO

> collaboration Tom.

>

> yes it does keep saying such things doesn't it? However, it needs to actively

> work _with_ other organisations on this. Terminology is not a standalone

> proposition...

>

> Note that openEHR has never done anything other than cooperate and propose

> various kinds of formal relationship with IHTSDO - we've spent a lot of time 
> on

> that. Limited results so far...

>

> - thomas

>

>

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