In this particular case IP is held on specifications archetypes are making use 
of.
It is about ownership of IP of BOTH the Reference Model and the AOM

Gerard

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Bert Verhees <bert.verh...@rosa.nl> wrote:
> 
> On 03-09-15 09:07, "Gerard Freriks (privé)" wrote:
>> I think that definitions are generally valid.
> 
> Gerard, I think you know, you be ignorant and warning at the same moment.
> I have good news for you (because ISO13606 is using parts of the AOM) and for 
> all of us.
> There cannot any effective IP be claimed on OpenEHR and related technologies.
> ----------------------------------------------
> Let me explain:
> 
> There are two kinds of IP
> 
> One is copyright, it is about the literally text of something
> One is patents, it is about the idea worded in the text.
> 
> I don't know any other form of IP, do you Gerard?
> ---------------------------------------------
> The first does not apply, because the text is given open source
> So, the publisher waives all rights until the end of days.
> ---------------------------------------------
> Then patents, there may be a hidden patent on OpenEHR related things.
> 
> There a few things important in the case of patents.
> 
> - It may not be based on already existing ideas, that is called prior art.
> - The patent owner is obliged to protect its patent, or else laches defenses 
> are possible. None ever filed a complaint about patent infringement regarding 
> the use of OpenEHR. Now it is too late. Laches defenses are possible after 5 
> years.
> - If the patent-owner lulled you in using a technique, so that you felled 
> safe to use it, he cannot claim afterwards IP on that.
> (Under the doctrine of “equitable estoppel”, the accused infringer must have 
> relied on the patentee’s assurance or non-enforcement in choosing to continue 
> infringing. The key issue is whether the accused was lulled into a false 
> sense of security and evidence that the accused detrimentally relied upon it.)
> 
> http://www.lawabel.com/patent-damages-laches-and-equitable-estoppel/ 
> <http://www.lawabel.com/patent-damages-laches-and-equitable-estoppel/>
> 
> So we can safely say that, even if there are patents on OpenEHR, they can 
> never be effected anymore.
> Not even on a new version of the Reference Model, because that will come very 
> close to prior art.
> ----------------------------------------------
> But still I think that the OpenEHR-organization should take more action to 
> fightr these rumors.
> 
> Best regards
> Bert Verhees

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