Dear Ian,

I wrote I will consider it.

I can accept your proposition.
It is factually the truth.

Gerard

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> On 7 sep. 2015, at 16:02, Ian McNicoll <i...@freshehr.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Gerard,
> 
> That is very positive and helpful.  Would you consider adjusting to ‘ openEHR 
> is a not-for-profit company established by UCL’ which I hope captures your 
> reservations about single ownership without giving the impression that this 
> is a 'for-profit 'company?
> 
> Ian
> 
> Dr Ian McNicoll
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> 
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> Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> 
> On 7 September 2015 at 14:38, "Gerard Freriks (privé)" <gf...@luna.nl 
> <mailto:gf...@luna.nl>> wrote:
> Dear Ian,
> 
> As I wrote you privately I promised to think over my use of words.
>  
> Referring to my e-mail with the definition, as I used it, plus the quote from 
> the openEHR website,
> it must have been clear that I was pointing at ownership of the openEHR 
> organisation.
>  
> I’m aware now, that ‘proprietary’ has an other, different, meaning, when 
> applied to software or specifications.
> My original e-mail conveyed an unintended meaning, is my conclusion.
>  Therefore I will no longer use the word ‘proprietary’ but the phrase ‘ 
> openEHR as a company owned by UCL’.
> 
> With regards,
>  
>  Gerard
> 
> Gerard Freriks
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>> On 3 sep. 2015, at 02:07, Ian McNicoll <i...@freshehr.com 
>> <mailto:i...@freshehr.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bert,
>> 
>> I am certainly conscious of rumours. Some of these are due to general 
>> suspicion of open source licensing (and we can, I think, do more to 
>> alleviate this)  but I am afraid some of anxiety is also caused by 
>> inaccurate and misleading information "openEHR is proprietary",  regularly 
>> stated by a small number of individuals. I have had to ask for these to be 
>> corrected in a number of documents e.g. The SemanticHealthNet report where 
>> it was agreed by the principal authors, including Dipak, to be incorrect.
>> 
>> Since a significant number of companies and national organisations now make 
>> use of openEHR specifications or artefacts, these statements are being 
>> regarded as commercially hostile and the Foundation Boards both agree that 
>> legal action should now be taken where the authors are not prepared to 
>> promptly correct this inaccuracy.
>> 
>> Leaving that aside. I am not convinced that ISO is a good home for openEHR. 
>> The specifications, development and revision process in ISO remain 
>> completely closed and quite at odds withopenEHR principles but I would be 
>> interested in other's views. 
>> 
>> I do think that some sort of association with a formal standards body would 
>> help alleviate some of the anxieties you mention (though these are 
>> imaginary) but I am not sure that ISO would be my first choice as it is 
>> currently constructed. I will raise the issue of whether to submit AOM2 with 
>> the Management Board.
>> 
>> I am interested in other people's opinions.
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> 
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>> <mailto:ian.mcnic...@openehr.org>
>> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd.
>> Director, HANDIHealth CIC
>> Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
>> 
>> On 1 September 2015 at 16:48, Bert Verhees <bert.verh...@rosa.nl 
>> <mailto:bert.verh...@rosa.nl>> wrote:
>> On 01-09-15 17:16, Bert Verhees wrote:
>> I have written a text (reply to Erik) in Stackoverflow, describing why it 
>> will be good for OpenEHR if AOM2.0 will become an ISO-standard in the 
>> context of ISO13606 renewal.
>> 
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32010122/are-the-hl7-fhir-hl7-cda-cimi-openehr-and-iso13606-approaches-aiming-to-solve/
>>  
>> <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32010122/are-the-hl7-fhir-hl7-cda-cimi-openehr-and-iso13606-approaches-aiming-to-solve/>
>>  
>> 
>> I must add, it is not that I suspect anyone of having secret IP on OpenEHR.
>> I have no reason to suspect this.
>> 
>> But I know people who have such suspicions, and having the AOM-part as an 
>> ISO standard, surely will fight these rumors.
>> 
>> I think it will help OpenEHR-implementations to have more customers.
>> 
>> Bert
>> 
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