Thanks again Ian! ☺ Could anyone from Slovenia provide links to documents mandating or recommending openEHR, and procurement documents referring to it? It doesn’t matter if they’re in Slovenian, the main point is that they can be proven to exist.
Regards, Silje From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:41 AM To: For openEHR technical discussions <openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org> Subject: Re: CAMSS assessment of openEHR I have added some links. many of the questions seem inappropriate, not applicable, or virtually impossible to answer within the health domain. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 office +44 (0)1536 414994 skype: ianmcnicoll email: i...@freshehr.com<mailto:i...@freshehr.com> twitter: @ianmcnicoll [https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0BzLo3mNUvbAjT2R5Sm1DdFZYTU0&export=download] Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org<mailto:ian.mcnic...@openehr.org> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd. Director, HANDIHealth CIC Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL On 6 January 2016 at 08:00, Bakke, Silje Ljosland <silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no<mailto:silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no>> wrote: Thanks Ian! It’s good to see there are so many “yes”-es! However, we’ll need some more info, for instance links to where the “relevant documentation of the development and approval process of the specification is archived and identified”. We’ll handle the spreadsheet bit. ☺ Regards, Silje From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org>] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 11:37 AM To: For openEHR technical discussions Subject: Re: CAMSS assessment of openEHR My first go now at CAMSS wiki page<https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/display/stds/CAMSS+Assessment+of+openEHR>, There appears to be a major snafu with the CAMMS spreadsheet that auto-sets 'not applicable' to most of the rows if 'open specification' is set as the standard type. This makes some sense for a proprietary specification but none whatsoever for an open specification. @Silje - you may want to seek clarification from the CAMMS authors. Ian Dr Ian McNicoll mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859<tel:%2B44%20%280%29775%20209%207859> office +44 (0)1536 414994<tel:%2B44%20%280%291536%20414994> skype: ianmcnicoll email: i...@freshehr.com<mailto:i...@freshehr.com> twitter: @ianmcnicoll [https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0BzLo3mNUvbAjT2R5Sm1DdFZYTU0&export=download] Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org<mailto:ian.mcnic...@openehr.org> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd. Director, HANDIHealth CIC Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL On 5 January 2016 at 08:52, Bakke, Silje Ljosland <silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no<mailto:silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no>> wrote: I’ve added the CAMSS assessment table to the page. Would appreciate any help in populating the pink cells. ☺ Regards, Silje From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org>] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 4:08 PM To: openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org> Subject: Re: CAMSS assessment of openEHR I have set up a CAMSS wiki page<https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/display/stds/CAMSS+Assessment+of+openEHR>, Silje if you can copy the relevant CAMSS boilerplate in (assessment table etc) and make it look vaguely presentable (make child pages if you need) then I am sure the community can get it populated quickly for you, since it's clearly of general benefit. - thomas On 04/01/2016 14:24, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote: Hi Thomas, thanks for your reply! I don’t have any say in which assessment criteria are used, unfortunately. I’ve seen your criteria, and agree they’re more specifically applicable to e-health standards. I’ll probably need a lot of help answering and justifying the CAMSS questions, especially those regarding the governance of the specifications. I hope it’s okay if I pose specific questions to this list. Regards, Silje From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 2:57 PM To: openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org> Subject: Re: CAMSS assessment of openEHR Hi Silje, I had a look at the website - it doesn't seem as if anyone is using CAMSS much, if we believe this page, which contains CAMSS assessments<https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/camss/og_page/camss-assessments>, none of which are health related. On this page <https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/camss/og_page/list-standards> there is a much larger list of 'recommended' standards which are all generic (PDF, GIF and so on) - I don't know what use this is. This page <https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/camss/wiki/camss-05-detailed-camss-criteria> has a long page of assessment criteria, which seem mostly reasonable to me, but are will probably miss what I would consider the most important criterion for value - longevity. I personally think longevity is ultimately based on semantic scalability (lack of other things will also kill it, like lack of community, implementations etc). See here <http://wolandscat.net/health-informatics/desiderata-for-successful-e-health-standards/> for my set of criteria. I also don't think that compatibility with other standards is necessarily a useful criterion - it depends on whether those other standards are in use and are themselves delivering value or just getting in the way. But overall the assessment tool seems OK. What I can't see is any example of where it has been applied to an e-health standard. - thomas _______________________________________________ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org _______________________________________________ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
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