Hi Silje, If I read http://www.openehr.org/releases/RM/Release-1.0.3/docs/data_types/data_types.html#_dv_ordinal_class correctly, it seems to imply that the minimum you do is to give the text the same value as the ordinal value: "...which may be strings made from + symbols, or other enumerations of terms such as mild , moderate , severe , or even the same number series as the values, e.g. 1 , 2 , 3" I personally think this is reasonable for cases like yours for the 'text'
Where it gets trickier is the corresponding 'description'. While it seems to be the common convention that there is some sort of a description for each term in the ontology, but I don't think it is a requirement from the specs (is it?) In cases like yours it seems reasonable to me to not have a description at all. Currently, in CKM I believe you can only upload it with an empty description, but not completely without it. If you have an empty description this would be displayed in square brackets without any content, which is technically correct, but a bit awkward: [] I am not aware that CKM is adding * with or without a language code on a simple upload. But when you start translating an archetype inside CKM, it would add this as a marker to all non-translated bits and pieces once you save. Here it may be reasonable to assume that if something is empty in the original language that then the translation doesn't need to be filled either and therefore CKM should not add the *(en) marker to it. For CKM, I would suggest: 1. Enable ARCHETYPE_TERMs completely without a description. 2. Finetune the translation functionality in CKM to not add a *(en) marker or similar in the translation, if it is empty in the original language as well. (but avoid empty texts in archetype terms, using the ordinal value as a minimum) Regards Sebastian From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Bakke, Silje Ljosland Sent: Dienstag, 26. April 2016 12:59 To: openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org Subject: Ordinal values without descriptions Hi everyone, We're working on an archetype for the Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating Scale (MADRS). This scale contains several ordinal values where there is no description, and some where there is no text at all. This doesn't work very well in archetypes, and particularly when uploading to a CKM, because there's an expectation that every field should be filled in, and the CKM will replace empty fields with * or sometimes *([language code]). Is there any way to get around this? See here for what the MADRS looks like: http://www.psy-world.com/madrs.htm Kind regards, Silje Ljosland Bakke Information Architect, RN Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes National ICT Norway Tel. +47 40203298 Web: http://arketyper.no<http://arketyper.no/> / Twitter: @arketyper_no<https://twitter.com/arketyper_no>
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