Maybe we should relate this thinking to CEN13606 because that Reference Model allows more generic thinking.
(Thinking this because GF was the convenor of this CEN standard)

But even then some more explanation would be welcome.

Bert

On 31-03-18 10:37, GF wrote:
Dear Thomas,

There are two possible Modelling styles:
*- Archetype Leafnode style (Element-Data style)*
Specialisation by changing the Element Data field
Each archetype is a fixed, standardised, pattern, a mini-ontology
The fixed path to the leaf-node defines the full meaning of that leaf-node

*- Archetype Node style (Class-Attribute style)*
Specialisation by changing node names in the archetype
Each archetype makes use of  non-standard patterns.
The meaning is changed by changing node names.

Gerard   Freriks
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On 30 Mar 2018, at 18:07, Thomas Beale <thomas.be...@openehr.org <mailto:thomas.be...@openehr.org>> wrote:

Gerard,

I don't know that your modelling approach is that far from openEHR - you are from memory using CLUSTER in a way we are not, but I don't recall the details. In any case, is there a recent reference page on the web where a technical summary of your modelling style can be seen?

thanks

- thomas


On 30/03/2018 16:49, GF wrote:
Philippe,

Fist of all: My ideas about modelling and using archetype, etc is not shared by OpenEhr

I agree that the tree is important.
My tree starts at Composition contaiining one of more Sections, and/or Entries. The Entry models a process of one of these: data observation, data evaluation, data planning, data ordering and data about events/actions. Each of these models deal with the full epistemology of that topic using standardised patterns/Clusters/Archetypes That what is observed is a Cluster archetype that models the datum plus its context/epistemology.

What is important is the Modelling Style.
In OpenEhr the nodes of the Archetype are changed.
In my style, since I make use of predefined patterns I will not change the nodes but change the data in the Elements. In my style of modelling querying the leaves is that what is done. The unique path defines its meaning. In my way of modelling the collection of paths is a kind of ontology for data in healthcare records.



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