Op 3 mei 2012, om 13:51 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven: > On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 13:39 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: >> Op 3 mei 2012, om 13:24 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven: >>> The whole point with the qemu emulated machines is that you build them >>> and they work for new users easily and efficiently. I don't think >>> calling bitbake to build them and force the user into another wait is a >>> good usability model to be promoting. >> >> OE-core should set the right example and teaching people that a global >> IMAGE_DEPENDS is OK is not the right example. Especially when it >> actually causes breakage, see below. >> If people insist that IMAGE_DEPENDS is the one and only way to provide >> the runqemu experience then at least put a big comment in the file >> saying why it's done and why people shouldn't be copy/pasting it into >> their layers. >> And an indiciation where the line is drawn would be nice as well, I >> can imagine that someone wants to add amazon EC2 support to runqemu >> and sends a patch to add the EC2 tools to IMAGE_DEPENDS. > > I'm happy to see a comment. The line is quite clear, the documentation > associated with the qemu images, the quick start guide and other manuals > assume we build qemu-native and friends and for usability this is a > clear win. The manuals do not document EC2 and it is not something we > expect a new user to need to do easily. Running an extra "bitbake xxx" > or including an extra configuration file would be perfectly reasonable > for those usage scenarios. > >>> I'm also slightly bemused that in previous discussions you've implied >>> build time is less relevant then functionality yet here you're taking >>> the opposite stance :). >> >> I get build *failures* for the qemu machines because I don't have mesa >> and sdl installed on the autobuilder. But you are right, I do think >> build time is less relevant than functionality. > > We should also consider setting up PACKAGECONFIG options in the qemu > recipe for these things so you can specify to build qemu-native without > sdl/gl easily. I appreciate that is going to be pretty nasty > implementation wise but I think it would help and in fact if someone > files the bug I'll mark it as a P1 for 1.3 since that does help > usability a lot.
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