On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 08:13:06AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > > Op 3 mei 2012, om 13:51 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven: > > > On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 13:39 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > >> Op 3 mei 2012, om 13:24 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven: > >>> The whole point with the qemu emulated machines is that you build them > >>> and they work for new users easily and efficiently. I don't think > >>> calling bitbake to build them and force the user into another wait is a > >>> good usability model to be promoting. > >> > >> OE-core should set the right example and teaching people that a global > >> IMAGE_DEPENDS is OK is not the right example. Especially when it > >> actually causes breakage, see below. > >> If people insist that IMAGE_DEPENDS is the one and only way to provide > >> the runqemu experience then at least put a big comment in the file > >> saying why it's done and why people shouldn't be copy/pasting it into > >> their layers. > >> And an indiciation where the line is drawn would be nice as well, I > >> can imagine that someone wants to add amazon EC2 support to runqemu > >> and sends a patch to add the EC2 tools to IMAGE_DEPENDS. > > > > I'm happy to see a comment. The line is quite clear, the documentation > > associated with the qemu images, the quick start guide and other manuals > > assume we build qemu-native and friends and for usability this is a > > clear win. The manuals do not document EC2 and it is not something we > > expect a new user to need to do easily. Running an extra "bitbake xxx" > > or including an extra configuration file would be perfectly reasonable > > for those usage scenarios. > > > >>> I'm also slightly bemused that in previous discussions you've implied > >>> build time is less relevant then functionality yet here you're taking > >>> the opposite stance :). > >> > >> I get build *failures* for the qemu machines because I don't have mesa > >> and sdl installed on the autobuilder. But you are right, I do think > >> build time is less relevant than functionality. > > > > We should also consider setting up PACKAGECONFIG options in the qemu > > recipe for these things so you can specify to build qemu-native without > > sdl/gl easily. I appreciate that is going to be pretty nasty > > implementation wise but I think it would help and in fact if someone > > files the bug I'll mark it as a P1 for 1.3 since that does help > > usability a lot. > > #2402 and it's already going the WONTFIX way
#2407 ? -- Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: martin.ja...@gmail.com
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