On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 10:44 -0800, Scott Weitzenkamp (sweitzen) wrote:
> Tziporet and Doug, we can discuss this at the OFED conf call on Feb 26,
> I suggest we try to improve this area.

OK.  I'll make sure to attend the Feb 26 meeting.

> Scott Weitzenkamp
> SQA and Release Manager
> Server Virtualization Business Unit
> Cisco Systems
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Ledford
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:36 AM
> > To: Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Openib-General@Openib.Org'
> > Subject: Re: [openib-general] Open MPI rpmbuild fails in OFED-1.2
> > 
> > On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 13:38 -0500, Jeff Squyres wrote:
> > > New SRPM on server that munges the %build section into the 
> > %install  
> > > section.
> > > 
> > > Yuck.  :-)
> > 
> > Worse than yuck, it's wrong.  Your SuSE %build section bug is a result
> > of trying to build against something that isn't installed yet but is
> > required for the build.  You guys chose to split things up 
> > into modules,
> > and that's fine and the way things should be, but that means 
> > you need to
> > install required packages along the way if you want to build against
> > them, not try to build against binaries in temporary 
> > directories.  Apart
> > from that though, I can assure you that on RHEL and FC, the %build
> > section is a requirement if you want valid -debuginfo packages.
> > 
> > I've brought it up at the last two conferences I attented, 
> > and I usually
> > get a brick wall when I do, but the OFED packaging process is 
> > broken by
> > design.  As Shaun brought up, one of the benefits of proper RPM
> > packaging is reliable, reproducible builds, not to mention the whole
> > issue of debugging with gdb is nigh impossible without valid debuginfo
> > rpms; all of which are vital to supportability.
> > 
> > I'm looking through the alpha1 tarball right now, I'll comment on it
> > later under separate email.  But, first glance is that I'll be ripping
> > everything out and making it sane again.
> > 
> > Which brings up another point that I've mentioned before but 
> > nothing has
> > happened on: as long as you guys keep making your distribution use an
> > installation hierarchy that violates the rules for distributions
> > shipping code, places like Novell or Red Hat have one of two choices:
> > violate the Linux File Hierarchy Standard in our 
> > distributions or use a
> > different hierarchy than you do.  Obviously, we aren't going 
> > to fore go
> > LFHS compliance of our entire product for just this, so we use a
> > different hierarchy than you.  In the end, this can end up causing
> > confusion for customers, as well as inconsistency between what Red Hat
> > or Novell or you guys choose to use as the file placement.  Something
> > needs to be done to standardize installation directories in an
> > acceptable place IMO (/usr/local is verboten for a 
> > distribution to use,
> > and theoretically that should include you guys since you are a
> > distribution source, the only real reason people are 
> > compiling your code
> > locally is that you don't provide binary RPMs or because they want a
> > custom compiler instead of gcc, not because they are trying out new
> > software they don't necessarily intend to keep/use or which is new
> > enough that no one has formally packaged it up, which is what 
> > /usr/local
> > is for).
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Vladimir Sokolovsky wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > > Please remove %build macro from the RPM spec file.
> > > > On SuSE distros it removes RPM_BUILD_ROOT.
> > > >
> > > > Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.23343
> > > > + umask 022
> > > > + cd /var/tmp/OFEDRPM/BUILD
> > > > + /bin/rm -rf /var/tmp/OFED
> > > > ++ dirname /var/tmp/OFED
> > > > + /bin/mkdir -p /var/tmp
> > > > + /bin/mkdir /var/tmp/OFED
> > > > + cd openmpi-1.2b4ofedr13470
> > > > + fortify_source=1
> > > > + test '' '!=' ''
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Vladimir Sokolovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Mellanox Technologies Ltd.
> > > 
> > > 
> > -- 
> > Doug Ledford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >               GPG KeyID: CFBFF194
> >               http://people.redhat.com/dledford
> > 
> > Infiniband specific RPMs available at
> >               http://people.redhat.com/dledford/Infiniband
> > 
-- 
Doug Ledford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
              GPG KeyID: CFBFF194
              http://people.redhat.com/dledford

Infiniband specific RPMs available at
              http://people.redhat.com/dledford/Infiniband

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