On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 15:31 -0700, Gary Driggs wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: > > The problem in this instance is that Sun DID open source many cool things > > and post Sun take over Oracle has been systematically "undoing" Sun's open > > source gifting via a variety of "innovative" tactics at pretty much every > > chance they can, > > If I understand things correctly, part of the problem at Sun involved their > bizarre sales bonus policy that was based on volume instead of profit.
Not germane to the discussion at hand... > > often in tandem with exorbitant increases in licensing fees. And for that > > they have earned much well deserved criticism. > > Have you ever paid support for AIX or HP/UX and the hardware it runs on? > Solaris prices may seem exorbitant by x86 standards but they're still quite > competitive with other enterprise big- or bi-endian architectures. I wouldn't say they're even in the ballpark of being comparable. Unless perhaps you're talking IBM mainframe, the details of which I'm unfamiliar but hear is pretty spendy. A couple enterprises I'm familiar with saw dramatic price increases across the board. Coupled with the release of PostgreSQL 9, they are presently in process of ridding themselves of _everything_ Oracle. > > Additionally, it would be a far stretch to construe criticism of Oracle > > corporate policies enacted by upper management to extend to rank and file > > employees who > > That said, one might suggest that the golden parachuted former Sun > Microsystems upper management is responsible for steering the company in to > the weeds in the first place. And I didn't see Apple or Google making a bid > for Sun (despite several aborted Apple/Sun mergers). So without someone to > take them out of their nose dive, Sun assets would have ended up as just > another large patent portfolio for sale a la Nortel. Again, not germane to the discussion at hand. Some companies are good and have a sense of ethics. Other companies are just outright bad, evil, greedy, & unethical sob's. Sadly, imo, Oracle falls into this latter category. That Sun management was ineffective does in no way excuse this. -- Regards-- Ken Gunderson _______________________________________________ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss