On 9/2/12 7:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote:
On 2/09/12 02:48 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote:
I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the
command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including
Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to
administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use
it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI
would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most
importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old
adage "A good product markets itself" has some truth in it. But it
must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less
versed person will understand how good it is.
Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the
horse. It is more important to be able to easily build everything
and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI
popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an
organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If
OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who
already preferred Solaris.
+1. Precisely.
I totally agree. However, I selfishly want an X-windows server and
window manager on my server. I personally would prefer a simple window
manager over a the heavyweight Gnome/KDE camps but there are reasons to
go with these.
I develop GUI based applications and have just about one of every
Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows OS and version running to do build and test
sitting in the home office on the opposite coast. Our clients still
have a large investment with Solaris 9/10 so it is important that this
builds and runs on a Solaris variant. Some of the apps can launch
external programs, so it determines whether it should use gnome-open,
etc. to choose the appropriate application.
I telecommute, so when I make code changes I like to first build and
test it on a cross section of platforms locally so I don't ship it out
to the build farm broken and make everyone unhappy.
I run router/firewall/file-share/backup/web/imap,web,smtp mail services
on an old V20z. I have over 10 TB of mirrored zfs storage on which
stores mail for each user With all of this, I seldomly tax it's
resources. I do, however use this to build and test to make sure that
it properly compiles and runs my applications. This has saved me
countless of re-spins do to compiler or library issues. Without
X-windows and some WM, I would no longer be able to use this machine
that way and would have to take the hit for breaking Solaris builds.
I recently picked up an Enterprise 450 when I heard of the OI Sparc
efforts. However, it came with the internal NIC and the DVD drive
broken. It also has that funky PXE graphics card. I got around the NIC
by putting a fiberchannel card in and a SX to TX converter, and picked
up a replacement DVD drive. I was hoping to not only use it for
testing, but to use it to help the SPARC OI efforts but it still
requires X-windows and WM to be useful for me.
I can't believe that I'm the only one that uses OI to do GUI product
development.
Gary
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