Alan is, of course, correct. You can't have *all* of them fixed in a code base 
as large as a modern OS. But you can fix the important stuff. And what a 
prospective user experiences when they boot the Live Image and attempt an 
install is critical.

When experienced people have major problems doing an install there is something 
seriously wrong. The only thing that kept me going for 50 hours was that I had 
never in 35 years lost a battle with a computer. And I was not going to 
concede. I came very close though to returning the Z840. But before I did that 
I was going to give it one more try and that uncovered the issue. The device 
configuration had not been saved and it did not have /reconfigure present when 
it began to reboot.

Most important of all is a concerted effort *by the user community* to test and 
review a release to ensure that glaring problems are fixed so that a 
prospective new user has a good experience and favorable impression. For a wide 
range of reasons testing a release candidate is not something the developers 
can meaningfully do. It *must* be the users.

Reg



On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 10:05:43 AM CDT, Judah Richardson 
<judahrichard...@gmail.com> wrote:


FWIW I strongly agree with you and Alan's take on the "all bugs fixed"
concept.
  
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