On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Ryan Jaeb <r...@jaeb.ca> wrote: > Do you guys have an estimate for the percentage of current JIRA > contributors that will no longer be able to participate, in a meaningful > way, in bug reporting due to this change? I can't speak for anyone else, > but I can tell you what a switch to JBS means to me. > > I consider myself an OpenJFX user, not an OpenJFX developer. I contribute > bug reports, but not patches. I haven't contributed a ton of bug reports > (22), but every time I run into a bug I take extra time to isolate the > issue, create a reproducible example, and file a bug. I'm careful to be > polite, honest if I make any mistakes, and I make an effort to follow up > whenever there's activity on a bug I've reported. > > The current bug tracker is a good value proposition for me. My effort has > a direct impact on having bugs that I discover fixed, it's easy for me to > comment on bugs when I feel like I have useful input, I get to vote on all > the bugs that affect me, and, most importantly, the discussion on many bug > reports often leads to an acceptable workaround until the bug can be fixed. > > Conversely, contributing via JBS is not a good value proposition for me. I > won't have an author role, I won't get to comment on bugs, and I won't get > to vote on bugs. The process for me to participate is more cumbersome and > bureaucratic and is going to be far less meaningful than the participation > that I've become accustomed to with the existing bug tracking system. > > Why should I participate in a system where my contributions don't even > warrant a vote on existing bugs? Once the switch to JBS happens I'll stop > reporting minor bugs. The hassle of using JBS means I'm only going to make > an effort when I run into a major, showstopping bug. I don't intend to > sound like I'm throwing a tantrum. I'm simply being honest. > > For a normal user like me, JBS doesn't make contributing easier, it makes > it harder. It doesn't communicate appreciation to small contributors, it > alienates us. It's not inviting to new contributors, it's intimidating. > These things may be ok for a large project like the OpenJDK and it may even > help stack the bug tracker with veteran developers. However, I don't think > JavaFX is in a position to discourage anyone from participating. > > Please reconsider the decision to merge with JBS as it's going to have a > significant, negative impact on normal users like me.
I had not realized that I would not be able to comment on my own or other issues after this change. That is a major step back for me as well and my role so far is very similar to Ryan's (I have not contributed code but I have invested considerable amounts of time preparing bug reports with reproducible test cases and aiding Oracle devs by adding comments when requested). So I am totally with Ryan and Tobias on this. Very bad news.
