Part of the reason why it's hard to reproduce a bug using a one-shot report is that there's no way to have a low-effort open discussion and no way to ask questions that would help clear things up. Not only is having open discussions of issues beneficial for quickly zeroing in on a workable solution, it also helps with getting a better understanding on where common pain points are for users. Even if a user wrongly identifies or poorly describes an issue, you'll often get a better understanding of an underlying issue just by allowing discussion.
Am Fr., 26. März 2021 um 22:05 Uhr schrieb Nir Lisker <nlis...@gmail.com>: > > There's no question that the JBS is the way to go for handling existing > reports. > > As for incoming reports, I dislike the GitHub issues as they are just a > text dump, and many reporters are not careful about giving you versions > (Java/JavaFX/OS...) or working environment details. You can help GitHub > with templates like Gradle does, but I find it still a bit shaky and > overall produces much less quality reports. > There's also the issue of transferring them from whatever system we use to > JBS, how to do it and who exactly will do it? Will the triage team at > Oracle that work on the webform work here too? It takes a lot of time to > try to reproduce a bug using (sometimes cryptic) submitter instructions. > > Let's enumerate the webform issues: > 1. Bugs don't immediately reappear on JBS since they are triaged internally. > 2. Can't add images/attachments. > 3. No submitter name for those who want the credit. > 4. ??? > > Suppose we create our own webform: > 1. We technically have credentials to forward them directly into JBS > because we have Authors (needless to say it should not be dependent on a > specific person, but for now...). Will we lose Oracle's triage team in this > case or can we tell them to have a look at these bugs (we can adda label to > mark them)? > 2. We can allow attachments and transfer them directly to Jira attachments. > 3. We can't credit the submitter because the Reporter field in Jira is not > editable (at least at my permissions level) and I'm getting the impression > the people who are in charge of this will not make an exception for us, but > we can add a text line with "submitted by" as a workaround. > > Is it worth it? Can we do better? > > N.B. As John Neffenger said about issues still coming to the old repo, > maybe we should close it so they won't be misled. >