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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Alexei Fedotov
<[email protected]> wrote:
> @sebastian sure 20 Mbit/s server that cannot replace openmeetings.de
> @tony I suspected that bandwidth can be a problem, I recall how Apache
> Harmony guys were banned due to frequent svn checkouts
>
> I recall Apache owned several donated servers at different places, and
> the server don't need to be close to the whole Apache infra. Could one
> of these servers be used, or these remote donated servers are no
> longer available?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Tony Stevenson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Alexei Fedotov wrote on Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:24:08AM +0400:
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> There are requirements for hosting small conferences for ~8 people
>>> (like Apache board):
>>>
>>> virtual Ubuntu host
>>> 1Gb memory
>>> 20 Mbit/s of bandwidth (the more, the better)
>>
>> Alexei, we dont have that amount of bandwidth to throw this.  Our main US 
>> circuit is only 50Mb.  This has to provide all our other services too, such 
>> as svn, mail, www, mail-archives etc.
>> Right now we are pushinvg that circuit at over 100Mb during peak periods. 
>> Adding another 20Mb is likely to upset folks at OSU.
>>
>>> 25% of modern 2-core processor
>>
>> Other resources you request should be do-able without a great deal of 
>> strain.  It's just the bandwidth requirements that make this look very 
>> unattractive.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Tony Stevenson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Alexei Fedotov wrote on Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:23:32AM +0400:
>>> >> Jukka,
>>> >> I believe there are use cases for real time communication. For
>>> >> example, GSoC is coming, and one of requirements for student/mentor
>>> >> pair is to have a Skype interview. Why not to replace it with Apache
>>> >> Openmetings interview?
>>> >>
>>> >> Infra folks,
>>> >> Do you think it makes sense to create Apache openmeetigns demo server,
>>> >> which can be used for real time communication?
>>> >
>>> > To be honest, thats isnt for us to answer, what we will answer to is a 
>>> > request
>>> > for resources to run something on. However please note that just asking 
>>> > for a
>>> > 'server' with no real specification of resources required, your request 
>>> > will
>>> > quite likely grind to a halt.  In other words the more information you 
>>> > can give
>>> > us the better chance you will have of actually getting what you ask for.
>>> >
>>> >> How difficult would it be?
>>> >
>>> > You tell us, we haven't deployed it before.  If we were to give you a 
>>> > 'server'
>>> > it would amonst certainly be either a Ubuntu VM, or an fBSD Jail. Both of
>>> > which are I/O restricted as the physical host is shared with others.
>>> >
>>> >> Openmeetings could take advantage of good bandwidth.
>>> >
>>> > So does skype.  :-)
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM, [email protected]
>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> > @Alexei I can remember it was your question about having a demo server 
>>> >> > @
>>> >> > Apache
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> > From: Jukka Zitting <[email protected]>
>>> >> > Date: 2012/3/5
>>> >> > Subject: OpenMeetings status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of 
>>> >> > "March2012"
>>> >> > by SebastianWagner)
>>> >> > To: [email protected]
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks for the early report, OpenMeetings! (And good catch on
>>> >> > reverting the accidental removal of your report.)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sounds like you're off to a good start at incubation. I'm looking
>>> >> > forward to more good news from you!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Apache Wiki <[email protected]> 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> +   - A question for PMC: Should we start a demo server on Apache, so
>>> >> > people
>>> >> >> +     can benefit from communication?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The best approach is probably to bring this idea up with the
>>> >> > infrastructure team. I'm not sure if many projects or other groups
>>> >> > within Apache would be interested in such a service (real-time
>>> >> > communication can be a bit troublesome from a community perspective),
>>> >> > but it doesn't hurt to ask.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> + Problems:
>>> >> >> +   * currently the legal status of our plugins is not 100% clear if 
>>> >> >> we
>>> >> > are able to maintain and publish them under ASL, see
>>> >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201202.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-HLOFjCj%3DHopsHz-FP884JyQ5mwHnGPVSrD5TVC_D%2BTw%40mail.gmail.com%3Ewe
>>> >> > need to discuss that further and get an official statement.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > You can contact also [email protected] if you need more help on 
>>> >> > this.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > BR,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jukka Zitting
>>> >> >
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>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Sebastian Wagner
>>> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>>> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> >> > [email protected]
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Tony
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tony
>>
>>
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>>
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