*I'd be happy to help you figure out what demand really exists within the ASF* => That would be great Ross!
By getting some feedback from within the ASF we could also gather some ideas for improvements for our Roadmap. Sebastian 2012/3/12 Ross Gardler <[email protected]> > On 12 March 2012 07:24, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > > > There are requirements for hosting small conferences for ~8 people > > (like Apache board): > > I've not seen the Apache Board request such a service - quite the > opposite in fact, there are reasons why a dial in conference is better > for such meetings, this was discussed recently when someone suggested > using Skype or equivalent. > > As for other projects the ASF generally discourages any kind of > official synchronous communication as it excludes people in different > time zones and increases the difficulties for people who do not speak > English as a first language. That being said there might be some valid > use cases for this kind of thing. I can imagine some projects running > user focussed Q&A sessions, others might run occasional sessions to > help new developers configure dev machines. I can also imagine it > being useful during GSoC. However, I doubt infra will want to set-up > and maintain such a server unless a reasonable number of projects have > indicated they will use it. > > As an OpenMeetings mentor and as a member of the Community Development > PMC I'd be happy to help you figure out what demand really exists > within the ASF. Then, if appropriate, we can then approach infra for > the resources. I note later in this thread it is indicated that > bandwidth is a problem. If there is a compelling enough reason then a > case could be made to increase the available bandwidth, but > demonstration of genuine need must to come first. > > Ross > > > > > virtual Ubuntu host > > 1Gb memory > > 20 Mbit/s of bandwidth (the more, the better) > > 25% of modern 2-core processor > > > > > > > > -- > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > http://dataved.ru/ > > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Tony Stevenson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Alexei Fedotov wrote on Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:23:32AM +0400: > >>> Jukka, > >>> I believe there are use cases for real time communication. For > >>> example, GSoC is coming, and one of requirements for student/mentor > >>> pair is to have a Skype interview. Why not to replace it with Apache > >>> Openmetings interview? > >>> > >>> Infra folks, > >>> Do you think it makes sense to create Apache openmeetigns demo server, > >>> which can be used for real time communication? > >> > >> To be honest, thats isnt for us to answer, what we will answer to is a > request > >> for resources to run something on. However please note that just asking > for a > >> 'server' with no real specification of resources required, your request > will > >> quite likely grind to a halt. In other words the more information you > can give > >> us the better chance you will have of actually getting what you ask for. > >> > >>> How difficult would it be? > >> > >> You tell us, we haven't deployed it before. If we were to give you a > 'server' > >> it would amonst certainly be either a Ubuntu VM, or an fBSD Jail. Both > of > >> which are I/O restricted as the physical host is shared with others. > >> > >>> Openmeetings could take advantage of good bandwidth. > >> > >> So does skype. :-) > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >>> http://dataved.ru/ > >>> +7 916 562 8095 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM, [email protected] > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > @Alexei I can remember it was your question about having a demo > server @ > >>> > Apache > >>> > > >>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>> > From: Jukka Zitting <[email protected]> > >>> > Date: 2012/3/5 > >>> > Subject: OpenMeetings status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of > "March2012" > >>> > by SebastianWagner) > >>> > To: [email protected] > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Hi, > >>> > > >>> > Thanks for the early report, OpenMeetings! (And good catch on > >>> > reverting the accidental removal of your report.) > >>> > > >>> > Sounds like you're off to a good start at incubation. I'm looking > >>> > forward to more good news from you! > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Apache Wiki <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> >> + - A question for PMC: Should we start a demo server on Apache, > so > >>> > people > >>> >> + can benefit from communication? > >>> > > >>> > The best approach is probably to bring this idea up with the > >>> > infrastructure team. I'm not sure if many projects or other groups > >>> > within Apache would be interested in such a service (real-time > >>> > communication can be a bit troublesome from a community perspective), > >>> > but it doesn't hurt to ask. > >>> > > >>> >> + Problems: > >>> >> + * currently the legal status of our plugins is not 100% clear > if we > >>> > are able to maintain and publish them under ASL, see > >>> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201202.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-HLOFjCj%3DHopsHz-FP884JyQ5mwHnGPVSrD5TVC_D%2BTw%40mail.gmail.com%3Ewe > >>> > need to discuss that further and get an official statement. > >>> > > >>> > You can contact also [email protected] if you need more help > on this. > >>> > > >>> > BR, > >>> > > >>> > Jukka Zitting > >>> > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Sebastian Wagner > >>> > http://www.openmeetings.de > >>> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > >>> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >>> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >>> > [email protected] > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Tony > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------- > >> Tony Stevenson > >> > >> [email protected] // [email protected] > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://blog.pc-tony.com > >> > >> GPG - 1024D/51047D66 > >> --------------------------------------" > >> > > > > -- > Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > Programme Leader (Open Development) > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > -- Sebastian Wagner http://www.openmeetings.de http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com [email protected]
