Unless we forget about standard ways of updating Linux and just do the scripts 20.03.2012 16:13 пользователь "[email protected]" <[email protected]> написал:
> *Can we limit ourselves to one platform?* > => why should we? > > 2012/3/20 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > Folks, that's good idea, thank you for raising it. > > > > Do you think we may have something like Linux autoupdates? > > > > Can we limit ourselves to one platform? > > 20.03.2012 13:37 пользователь "Тимур Тлеукенов" < > > [email protected]> > > написал: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > here is little php script that I previously used for uploading OM > backup > > > from cmd-line. But it required some modification to obtain authorized > sid > > > automatically. > > > > > > 2012/3/20 [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > > >> You are propably right, when performing backup export/import we can > even > > >> say its mandatory to stop the server. > > >> > > >> Sebastian > > >> > > >> 2012/3/20 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > > >> > > >> > I'll examine what can be done in case of Om is up and running. > > >> > If nothing can be done #1 can be used in this case. > > >> > > > >> > For me it seems to be not a big deal to stop server since it's > better > > to > > >> > have no active connections while backup/restore + it takes small > > amount > > >> of > > >> > timeif all operations are performed locally. > > >> > > > >> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:45, [email protected] < > > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> I would vote for #2 too. > > >> >> I only see here the problem with the Spring managed DB Session and > > >> >> possible caching issues. If OpenMeetings is already Up and running, > > it > > >> >> would mean a second Java instance is started to perform the cli > > tasks? > > >> How > > >> >> will that work for example with OpenJPA's sequence table? Do we > have > > a > > >> >> chance to grab the session from an already running webapp? Or is > > there > > >> >> maybe a Spring extension point that we can use here? > > >> >> > > >> >> Sebastian > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> 2012/3/20 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > > >> >> > > >> >>> The quick-and-easy way to implement it: > > >> >>> 1) import/export php-cli script based on REST calls > > >> >>> 2) Java command-line tool performing the code currently > implemented > > in > > >> >>> JUnit tests (install/import/export can be easily implemented) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I would vote for #2 > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:03, Maxim Solodovnik < > > [email protected] > > >> >wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>> Hello Sebastian > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> I think command line import/export/install will be great idea! > > (There > > >> >>>> was old request for this feature) > > >> >>>> This will save time for the installation/update. > > >> >>>> Backup can be stored on the same server (will save time for > > >> >>>> download/upload and traffic) > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> instead of unarchiving, installing, login and importing there > will > > be > > >> >>>> just one step. > > >> >>>> I would like to implement that > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 02:20, [email protected] < > > >> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>> Hi Maxim, > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> after you have successfully improved and set up our Nightly > Build > > >> >>>>> System (Congrats!!) I would like to start some discussion about > > our > > >> update > > >> >>>>> mechanism: > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> The current mechanism is fine as you can switch between from any > > old > > >> >>>>> version and import your data to another version. I would like to > > >> keep that > > >> >>>>> import/export mechanism via the web-interface. I think it is > easy > > >> to use > > >> >>>>> also for non Sys-Administrators to re-import existing data that > > way. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> However there is no other way of updating the system (except you > > >> know > > >> >>>>> what you do). My idea was kind of inspired by Moodle: They have > > >> implemented > > >> >>>>> some kind of command line interface to do backup actions in > their > > >> latest > > >> >>>>> version. > > >> >>>>> I think having the possibility to do the backup import/export > also > > >> via > > >> >>>>> command line would be great. > > >> >>>>> There might be also a possibility to do the initial install via > > this > > >> >>>>> command line interface instead of the web-installer via browser. > > >> >>>>> And for example to add a user to the openmeetings database with > > it. > > >> >>>>> This gives Sys admins much more flexibility for managing the > > system. > > >> >>>>> From my understanding the problem with that idea is that this > > >> command > > >> >>>>> line interface to OpenMeetings has to access the same Spring > > managed > > >> >>>>> openJPA DB session then the usual webapp, cause otherwise you > > would > > >> need to > > >> >>>>> do a restart Red5 or some tricks to flush openJPA's cache. > > >> >>>>> The second big point about it would be security. I think to > access > > >> the > > >> >>>>> command line interface it should be possible to auth with the > same > > >> user > > >> >>>>> that you auth at the web-interface (admin level users only of > > >> course). > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> What do you think about that? > > >> >>>>> I think a big plus for this feature would be also that this is a > > >> >>>>> perfect extension point for system integrators and for building > > >> packages > > >> >>>>> for various linux distributions. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> Sebastian > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> -- > > >> >>>>> Sebastian Wagner > > >> >>>>> http://www.openmeetings.de > > >> >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > >> >>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> >>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> >>>>> [email protected] > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> -- > > >> >>>> WBR > > >> >>>> Maxim aka solomax > > >> >>>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -- > > >> >>> WBR > > >> >>> Maxim aka solomax > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > > >> >> http://www.openmeetings.de > > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> >> [email protected] > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > WBR > > >> > Maxim aka solomax > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Sebastian Wagner > > >> http://www.openmeetings.de > > >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Timur Tleukenov > > > > > > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > http://www.openmeetings.de > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > [email protected] >
