I thought of java command line tool (probably with short shell script to run it)
2012/3/20 [email protected] <[email protected]> > My request was not about building any specific package for distro x,y,z > My request was about creating a general CLI interface to perform system > backup/import/install/manageUsers. Based on that, system integrators can > build their Debian/RedHat/Suse/CentOS/Window/OSx package. > If anybody volunteers directly now to build a .deb or Ubuntu Package and > bring it into the official tree of that distro => Very nice, however what I > think we should provide as openmeetings team is a very easy way / an > extension point where potential volunteers can start with. > > Sebastian > > 2012/3/20 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > Unless we forget about standard ways of updating Linux and just do the > > scripts > > 20.03.2012 16:13 пользователь "[email protected]" < > > [email protected]> > > написал: > > > > > *Can we limit ourselves to one platform?* > > > => why should we? > > > > > > 2012/3/20 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Folks, that's good idea, thank you for raising it. > > > > > > > > Do you think we may have something like Linux autoupdates? > > > > > > > > Can we limit ourselves to one platform? > > > > 20.03.2012 13:37 пользователь "Тимур Тлеукенов" < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > написал: > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > here is little php script that I previously used for uploading OM > > > backup > > > > > from cmd-line. But it required some modification to obtain > authorized > > > sid > > > > > automatically. > > > > > > > > > > 2012/3/20 [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > >> You are propably right, when performing backup export/import we > can > > > even > > > > >> say its mandatory to stop the server. > > > > >> > > > > >> Sebastian > > > > >> > > > > >> 2012/3/20 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > > >> > I'll examine what can be done in case of Om is up and running. > > > > >> > If nothing can be done #1 can be used in this case. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > For me it seems to be not a big deal to stop server since it's > > > better > > > > to > > > > >> > have no active connections while backup/restore + it takes small > > > > amount > > > > >> of > > > > >> > timeif all operations are performed locally. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:45, [email protected] < > > > > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> I would vote for #2 too. > > > > >> >> I only see here the problem with the Spring managed DB Session > > and > > > > >> >> possible caching issues. If OpenMeetings is already Up and > > running, > > > > it > > > > >> >> would mean a second Java instance is started to perform the cli > > > > tasks? > > > > >> How > > > > >> >> will that work for example with OpenJPA's sequence table? Do we > > > have > > > > a > > > > >> >> chance to grab the session from an already running webapp? Or > is > > > > there > > > > >> >> maybe a Spring extension point that we can use here? > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Sebastian > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> 2012/3/20 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> The quick-and-easy way to implement it: > > > > >> >>> 1) import/export php-cli script based on REST calls > > > > >> >>> 2) Java command-line tool performing the code currently > > > implemented > > > > in > > > > >> >>> JUnit tests (install/import/export can be easily implemented) > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> I would vote for #2 > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:03, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> Hello Sebastian > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> I think command line import/export/install will be great > idea! > > > > (There > > > > >> >>>> was old request for this feature) > > > > >> >>>> This will save time for the installation/update. > > > > >> >>>> Backup can be stored on the same server (will save time for > > > > >> >>>> download/upload and traffic) > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> instead of unarchiving, installing, login and importing there > > > will > > > > be > > > > >> >>>> just one step. > > > > >> >>>> I would like to implement that > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 02:20, [email protected] < > > > > >> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>>> Hi Maxim, > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> after you have successfully improved and set up our Nightly > > > Build > > > > >> >>>>> System (Congrats!!) I would like to start some discussion > > about > > > > our > > > > >> update > > > > >> >>>>> mechanism: > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> The current mechanism is fine as you can switch between from > > any > > > > old > > > > >> >>>>> version and import your data to another version. I would > like > > to > > > > >> keep that > > > > >> >>>>> import/export mechanism via the web-interface. I think it is > > > easy > > > > >> to use > > > > >> >>>>> also for non Sys-Administrators to re-import existing data > > that > > > > way. > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> However there is no other way of updating the system (except > > you > > > > >> know > > > > >> >>>>> what you do). My idea was kind of inspired by Moodle: They > > have > > > > >> implemented > > > > >> >>>>> some kind of command line interface to do backup actions in > > > their > > > > >> latest > > > > >> >>>>> version. > > > > >> >>>>> I think having the possibility to do the backup > import/export > > > also > > > > >> via > > > > >> >>>>> command line would be great. > > > > >> >>>>> There might be also a possibility to do the initial install > > via > > > > this > > > > >> >>>>> command line interface instead of the web-installer via > > browser. > > > > >> >>>>> And for example to add a user to the openmeetings database > > with > > > > it. > > > > >> >>>>> This gives Sys admins much more flexibility for managing the > > > > system. > > > > >> >>>>> From my understanding the problem with that idea is that > this > > > > >> command > > > > >> >>>>> line interface to OpenMeetings has to access the same Spring > > > > managed > > > > >> >>>>> openJPA DB session then the usual webapp, cause otherwise > you > > > > would > > > > >> need to > > > > >> >>>>> do a restart Red5 or some tricks to flush openJPA's cache. > > > > >> >>>>> The second big point about it would be security. I think to > > > access > > > > >> the > > > > >> >>>>> command line interface it should be possible to auth with > the > > > same > > > > >> user > > > > >> >>>>> that you auth at the web-interface (admin level users only > of > > > > >> course). > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> What do you think about that? > > > > >> >>>>> I think a big plus for this feature would be also that this > > is a > > > > >> >>>>> perfect extension point for system integrators and for > > building > > > > >> packages > > > > >> >>>>> for various linux distributions. > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> Sebastian > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> -- > > > > >> >>>>> Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> >>>>> http://www.openmeetings.de > > > > >> >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > > > >> >>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> >>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> >>>>> [email protected] > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> -- > > > > >> >>>> WBR > > > > >> >>>> Maxim aka solomax > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> -- > > > > >> >>> WBR > > > > >> >>> Maxim aka solomax > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> -- > > > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> >> http://www.openmeetings.de > > > > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> >> [email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > -- > > > > >> > WBR > > > > >> > Maxim aka solomax > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> http://www.openmeetings.de > > > > >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > > > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Timur Tleukenov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > http://www.openmeetings.de > > > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > http://www.openmeetings.de > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > [email protected] > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
