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With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095



On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes I do have the access,
> and I cannot see German and Dmitry projects among listed projects.
>
> BTW, were there any other applicants on the list?
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
>
> 2012/4/2 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>> @Alexei: Do you have a mentoring access to melange?
>>
>> 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Guys,
>>> proposals should be published both on the project wiki (or Apache
>>> wiki) and at melange, that's important not to miss melange.
>>>
>>> --
>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > *Have I understood right that upload stream from a user with a wide
>>> >
>>> > connection is with high quality, but then when it has gone to the
>>> > server the quality of the download stream could be changed for a user
>>> > with narrow connection? What do you think about the importance of the
>>> > task?*
>>> > => No, curently we can't deliver different stream based on user
>>> > configuration. Basically this task requires to modify Red5.
>>> > Importance of that feature ... well sure it would be nice and important
>>> to
>>> > be able to have the option to watch a stream in different quality modes
>>> and
>>> > eventually in HTTP streaming instead of flash. At some point it will
>>> require
>>> > you to think about how to transcode the stream on server side et cetera.
>>> So
>>> > it is basically a server side project. However it is up to you to decide
>>> if
>>> > you want to apply for such a project.
>>> >
>>> > *How do you estimate this task? Is it the task for whole GSoC or just a
>>> > part? If it is for the whole GSoC, I could make it.*
>>> > => Hm yes sure we could make this task grow, however if you want to just
>>> do
>>> > this single tool you will have to give much more details about it so that
>>> > 3th parties understand what is involved in it so that it takes 4 months
>>> to
>>> > implement it.
>>> >
>>> > As far is I do understand you want to work with the UI. So your Proposal
>>> > could cover those tasks:
>>> > 1) Bandwidth / Network testing tool,
>>> > attached is a screenshot from such a tool, so that tool would have 5
>>> > indicators:
>>> > Ports, Connection, Repeat time, Download Speed, Upload speed
>>> > You would need to create a server side servlet for testing the upload
>>> speed.
>>> >
>>> > 2) Add audio/video settings to user profile
>>> > User could adjust those settings in the Testing Application that pops up
>>> > before he enters the video conference room, That way he can record 5
>>> seconds
>>> > and test on its own and then store the settings to his profile.
>>> > => You should add a small mockup what of what it should look like
>>> >
>>> > 3) Improve the video pods
>>> > I did not understand what you want to do here
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sebastian
>>> >
>>> > 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <[email protected]>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sebastian,
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks for your fast answer. Ok, I have understood that video stream
>>> >> resolution auto-adjusting is unuseful feature. So, about your
>>> >> suggestions...
>>> >>
>>> >> > Adjustment of the stream and measuring bandwidth while conferencing is
>>> >> > basically a streaming server feature...
>>> >> > So if you are going to work on that, your task will be:
>>> >> > - analysing which events are available in Red5
>>> >> > - defining which scenarios we can realise using those events and
>>> >> > features
>>> >> > in Red5
>>> >> > - implementing such scenarios
>>> >>
>>> >> Have I understood right that upload stream from a user with a wide
>>> >> connection is with high quality, but then when it has gone to the
>>> >> server the quality of the download stream could be changed for a user
>>> >> with narrow connection? What do you think about the importance of the
>>> >> task?
>>> >>
>>> >> > A completely separated thing would be to implement an initial load
>>> >> > Tester:
>>> >> > A separated tool (comparable to SpeedTest) that checks if you have
>>> >> > sufficient down/upload rate, can connect to needed ports and measures
>>> >> > your
>>> >> > ping time. Such a "bandwidth detection tool" would be implemented as
>>> >> > standalong application as you would do that test even outside of
>>> >> > OpenMeetings.
>>> >>
>>> >> How do you estimate this task? Is it the task for whole GSoC or just a
>>> >> part? If it is for the whole GSoC, I could make it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Unfortunately, we have not much time because the proposal should be
>>> >> uploaded until the 6th of April, so I need harry up with this choice.
>>> >>
>>> >> German.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > 2012/4/2 [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi German,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> thanks for the proposal!
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Could you please explain a bit more detailed what you are going to do
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> what tools and methods you will be exactly using? For example for UI
>>> >> >> changes it is common that you might include a small mackup that
>>> >> >> describes
>>> >> >> the changes.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> About the automatic bandwidth detection / adjustment:
>>> >> >> I would like to know what process you imagine to adjust the
>>> bandwidth.
>>> >> >> To
>>> >> >> detect the bandwidth is one thing, however to change somebodys
>>> >> >> bandwidth
>>> >> >> you would need to re-publish his stream with different video
>>> settings.
>>> >> >>  The
>>> >> >> width and height of the video has the biggest impact on bandwidth.
>>> >> >> However
>>> >> >> changing the video pod width/height "auto-magically" is no option...
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> user chooses that value.
>>> >> >> The bandwidth detection also cannot change the download rate of
>>> >> >> anybody,
>>> >> >> you can only influence the upload bandwidth. If you want to change
>>> >> >> somebodys download rate the only option you got is turning on/off
>>> video
>>> >> >> as
>>> >> >> we don't provide different streams available for each participant.
>>> >> >> Measuring the bandwidth while you are doing conferencing is also not
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >> easy, you can hardly do load test permanently while conferencing as
>>> the
>>> >> >> bandwidth test will affect the conference (for example audio will
>>> >> >> stutter
>>> >> >> et cetera).
>>> >> >> So I wonder what exactly have you in mind ? What tools and methods
>>> are
>>> >> >> you
>>> >> >> going to use ?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Thanks!
>>> >> >> Sebastian
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Hello.
>>> >> >>> I'm German Grekhov. I want to take a part in Google Summer of code
>>> >> >>> with the OpenMeetings project.
>>> >> >>> You could find and read my proposal here:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0d70n0i-54pnsUgm7FycnHLI6v9yNSdZ_Md4iPDeFA/edit
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Everybody has the right of commenting this document.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Best regards,
>>> >> >>> German Grekhov.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Sebastian Wagner
>>> >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> >> >> http://www.openmeetings.de <
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/>
>>> >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> >> >> [email protected]
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Sebastian Wagner
>>> >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de <http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>>> >
>>> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> >> > [email protected]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Sebastian Wagner
>>> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> > http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> > http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> > [email protected]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/>
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> [email protected]

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