You should 02.04.2012 18:29 пользователь "German Grekhov" <[email protected]> написал:
> What is melange? Who should post the proposal there: I or my mentor? > > 2 апреля 2012 г. 18:16 пользователь [email protected] > <[email protected]> написал: > > How did you get the mentoring access to the melange website? Do you need > to > > request it on code-awards? > > > > Sebastian > > > > 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > >> Yes I do have the access, > >> and I cannot see German and Dmitry projects among listed projects. > >> > >> BTW, were there any other applicants on the list? > >> > >> -- > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> http://dataved.ru/ > >> +7 916 562 8095 > >> > >> > >> > >> 2012/4/2 [email protected] <[email protected]>: > >> > @Alexei: Do you have a mentoring access to melange? > >> > > >> > 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > >> >> Guys, > >> >> proposals should be published both on the project wiki (or Apache > >> >> wiki) and at melange, that's important not to miss melange. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> >> http://dataved.ru/ > >> >> +7 916 562 8095 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, [email protected] > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > *Have I understood right that upload stream from a user with a wide > >> >> > > >> >> > connection is with high quality, but then when it has gone to the > >> >> > server the quality of the download stream could be changed for a > user > >> >> > with narrow connection? What do you think about the importance of > the > >> >> > task?* > >> >> > => No, curently we can't deliver different stream based on user > >> >> > configuration. Basically this task requires to modify Red5. > >> >> > Importance of that feature ... well sure it would be nice and > >> important > >> >> to > >> >> > be able to have the option to watch a stream in different quality > >> modes > >> >> and > >> >> > eventually in HTTP streaming instead of flash. At some point it > will > >> >> require > >> >> > you to think about how to transcode the stream on server side et > >> cetera. > >> >> So > >> >> > it is basically a server side project. However it is up to you to > >> decide > >> >> if > >> >> > you want to apply for such a project. > >> >> > > >> >> > *How do you estimate this task? Is it the task for whole GSoC or > just > >> a > >> >> > part? If it is for the whole GSoC, I could make it.* > >> >> > => Hm yes sure we could make this task grow, however if you want to > >> just > >> >> do > >> >> > this single tool you will have to give much more details about it > so > >> that > >> >> > 3th parties understand what is involved in it so that it takes 4 > >> months > >> >> to > >> >> > implement it. > >> >> > > >> >> > As far is I do understand you want to work with the UI. So your > >> Proposal > >> >> > could cover those tasks: > >> >> > 1) Bandwidth / Network testing tool, > >> >> > attached is a screenshot from such a tool, so that tool would have > 5 > >> >> > indicators: > >> >> > Ports, Connection, Repeat time, Download Speed, Upload speed > >> >> > You would need to create a server side servlet for testing the > upload > >> >> speed. > >> >> > > >> >> > 2) Add audio/video settings to user profile > >> >> > User could adjust those settings in the Testing Application that > pops > >> up > >> >> > before he enters the video conference room, That way he can record > 5 > >> >> seconds > >> >> > and test on its own and then store the settings to his profile. > >> >> > => You should add a small mockup what of what it should look like > >> >> > > >> >> > 3) Improve the video pods > >> >> > I did not understand what you want to do here > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Sebastian > >> >> > > >> >> > 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sebastian, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> thanks for your fast answer. Ok, I have understood that video > stream > >> >> >> resolution auto-adjusting is unuseful feature. So, about your > >> >> >> suggestions... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Adjustment of the stream and measuring bandwidth while > >> conferencing is > >> >> >> > basically a streaming server feature... > >> >> >> > So if you are going to work on that, your task will be: > >> >> >> > - analysing which events are available in Red5 > >> >> >> > - defining which scenarios we can realise using those events and > >> >> >> > features > >> >> >> > in Red5 > >> >> >> > - implementing such scenarios > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Have I understood right that upload stream from a user with a wide > >> >> >> connection is with high quality, but then when it has gone to the > >> >> >> server the quality of the download stream could be changed for a > user > >> >> >> with narrow connection? What do you think about the importance of > the > >> >> >> task? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > A completely separated thing would be to implement an initial > load > >> >> >> > Tester: > >> >> >> > A separated tool (comparable to SpeedTest) that checks if you > have > >> >> >> > sufficient down/upload rate, can connect to needed ports and > >> measures > >> >> >> > your > >> >> >> > ping time. Such a "bandwidth detection tool" would be > implemented > >> as > >> >> >> > standalong application as you would do that test even outside of > >> >> >> > OpenMeetings. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> How do you estimate this task? Is it the task for whole GSoC or > just > >> a > >> >> >> part? If it is for the whole GSoC, I could make it. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Unfortunately, we have not much time because the proposal should > be > >> >> >> uploaded until the 6th of April, so I need harry up with this > choice. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> German. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > 2012/4/2 [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Hi German, > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> thanks for the proposal! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Could you please explain a bit more detailed what you are going > >> to do > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> what tools and methods you will be exactly using? For example > for > >> UI > >> >> >> >> changes it is common that you might include a small mackup that > >> >> >> >> describes > >> >> >> >> the changes. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> About the automatic bandwidth detection / adjustment: > >> >> >> >> I would like to know what process you imagine to adjust the > >> >> bandwidth. > >> >> >> >> To > >> >> >> >> detect the bandwidth is one thing, however to change somebodys > >> >> >> >> bandwidth > >> >> >> >> you would need to re-publish his stream with different video > >> >> settings. > >> >> >> >> The > >> >> >> >> width and height of the video has the biggest impact on > bandwidth. > >> >> >> >> However > >> >> >> >> changing the video pod width/height "auto-magically" is no > >> option... > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> user chooses that value. > >> >> >> >> The bandwidth detection also cannot change the download rate of > >> >> >> >> anybody, > >> >> >> >> you can only influence the upload bandwidth. If you want to > change > >> >> >> >> somebodys download rate the only option you got is turning > on/off > >> >> video > >> >> >> >> as > >> >> >> >> we don't provide different streams available for each > participant. > >> >> >> >> Measuring the bandwidth while you are doing conferencing is > also > >> not > >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> easy, you can hardly do load test permanently while > conferencing > >> as > >> >> the > >> >> >> >> bandwidth test will affect the conference (for example audio > will > >> >> >> >> stutter > >> >> >> >> et cetera). > >> >> >> >> So I wonder what exactly have you in mind ? What tools and > methods > >> >> are > >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> going to use ? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Thanks! > >> >> >> >> Sebastian > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> Hello. > >> >> >> >>> I'm German Grekhov. I want to take a part in Google Summer of > >> code > >> >> >> >>> with the OpenMeetings project. > >> >> >> >>> You could find and read my proposal here: > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0d70n0i-54pnsUgm7FycnHLI6v9yNSdZ_Md4iPDeFA/edit > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Everybody has the right of commenting this document. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Best regards, > >> >> >> >>> German Grekhov. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> Sebastian Wagner > >> >> >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> >> >> >> http://www.openmeetings.de < > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/> > >> >> >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> >> >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> >> >> >> [email protected] > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > Sebastian Wagner > >> >> >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> >> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de < > >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> >> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> >> >> > [email protected] > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Sebastian Wagner > >> >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de > >> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> >> > [email protected] > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Sebastian Wagner > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > http://www.openmeetings.de <http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Sebastian Wagner > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > http://www.openmeetings.de > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > [email protected] >
