Thanks Seba for the inclusion of a clear pointer to the Apache
OpenMeetings podling on your openmeetings.de domain, this is more than
sufficient attribution for the time being. We very much appreciate your
quick action to ensure that consumers and users are clearly informed
about where they can find Apache OpenMeetings software, here at the
ASF's incubator - thanks!
When we have an existing product and brand that is donated to the Apache
Incubator, the ASF understands that there will be a transition period in
your use (i.e. your organization that is donating the code and the brand
to the ASF) during the incubation process. This is expected and
understood.
The primary goal for the ASF's branding team is to ensure that the ASF
has full trademark rights to the "OpenMeetings" name at some point
before the podling graduates. This is required so that we can promote
and defend the brand once it becomes a top level project at Apache.
Given that part of this discussion is about legal matters, I'm going to
follow up in a few days to the PPMC private list and to the privately
archived trademarks@ list, including Seba, so we can organize all the
details.
In the short term Seba, please don't worry - your willingness to work
with us is great, and I'm betting we can make some good suggestions as
to how we can all ensure that users can both find Apache OpenMeetings
software (from the ASF), as well as find all sorts of great services
like hosting and support from your company.
I'd recommend PPMC members read our Corporate Recognition Best
Practices, to get a sense of the kinds of things that podlings/projects
can do on their websites to recognize outside companies that are related
to Apache projects:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking.html
Note that while it's still a DRAFT, the principles will remain the same
- I know we need to provide better explanations and examples.
- Shane Curcuru
VP, Brand Management
The Apache Software Foundation
P.S. I've just come back from OSCON and am exhausted, so will follow up
next week to the PPMC and trademarks@.
On 7/19/2012 12:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>*
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: 2012/7/19
Subject: Re: Trademarks
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
I agree,
it might lead to confusion as soon as a wider audience is looking for
information about the project they could be confused.
I've put an info text on the landing page at openmeetings.de
<http://openmeetings.de> to the project website at the Apache Foundation
for now.
I will contact the trademark list to ask what I should do further to
prevent confusion.
Sebastian
2012/7/19 Ross Gardler <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
The domain is not really a problem since it predates the projects move
here. we're not interested in killing off your business ;-) As long as
the PPMC has no objections to what you are doing there then all is
good. Things can certainly be improved to ensure any new PPMC members
not aware of your history with the project do not get confused. There
a specific domain name guidelines linked from the policy document -
see http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/domains.html
There hasn't been any specific complaints. This is more of a friendly
nudge to ensure you fully read and understand the trademark policies
in order to minimise any chance of complaints.
Ross
On 19 July 2012 11:51, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi Ross,
>
> is the domain name itself an issue or does any of the content at the
> website violate trademark policies?
> The website is mine so I can remove any of the content.
>
> Thanks!
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/7/19 Ross Gardler <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
>
>> The ASF has a defined trademark policy which all Top Level Projects
>> are expected to follow. It has recently been pointed out that some
>> uses of the OpenMeetings marks are not following these policies.
Note,
>> nobody has actually complained about this but it would be nice
to see
>> the PPMC better enforcing their policies.
>>
>> The trademark policy is at: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
>>
>> The site in question (but it may not be limited to this site) is
>> http://www.openmeetings.de/
>>
>> Question regarding how to best comply with the policy can be
addressed
>> to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
although your mentors can help in the first
>> instance.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ross
>>
>> --
>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
--
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
