On Thursday 01 May 2014 02:30 PM, Hans Feldt wrote:
> Let's be clear that MDS a pure internal opensaf service since quite a long 
> time. There are no "applications" to consider at all. This means the only 
> thing to care about is in-service performance and making sure  
> characteristics are improved, not regressed.
[Surya] I am saying in the context of internal messaging between the 
services which use MDS. Yes, thats what even i am trying to.
>
> I am not sure we have to maintain some legacy requirement of mixed 32/64 bit 
> clients on the same system. I don't see why we should.
[Surya] This is not limited to even 32/64 bit. Its how the encoding is 
handled for the destinations.
>
> Thanks,
> Hans
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SuryaNarayana Garlapati [mailto:suryanarayana.garlap...@oracle.com]
>> Sent: den 1 maj 2014 10:54
>> To: A V Mahesh
>> Cc: opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 3 of 4] mds: use TIPC segmentation/reassembly 
>> [#654]
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 01 May 2014 01:04 PM, A V Mahesh wrote:
>>> On 5/1/2014 10:16 AM, SuryaNarayana Garlapati wrote:
>>>> The archtype is not a legacy one, it was introduced to have the
>>>> optimization for the message encoding by the applications.
>>> Passing compile flags `mds_arch=1`  `mds_arch=2`  (mds_arch, [The
>>> arch-type input to MDS - valid values 1-7]) , is not a standard
>>> Open-Source ( enterprise things for legacy product ) option for
>>> compilations.
>> [Surya] Wrong, if you see any standard linux configure options for any
>> linux application code distributions, they do provide the options for
>> supporting the options to provide such powerpc, intel, 32/64bit etc. So
>> similar is the configure options for opensaf as well. For example you
>> can see the configure options for the net-snmp as well.
>>> Open source user not need to  Understand/get-Educate  about this
>>> internal options ,
>> [Surya] This is not a internal option, configure option which is exposed
>> to user as well.
>>> we are ok loose advantage of flat encode optimization ,
>>> from now we want to send full_encode to different node.
>> [Surya] This is not only done for optimization, this internally effects
>> the message performance between the opensaf services which do huge
>> messaging.
>> I am on way of thinking the solution for this. Lets wait.
>>>
>>> We are also raising enhancement ticket for  code clean.
>>>
>>> -AVM
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/1/2014 10:16 AM, SuryaNarayana Garlapati wrote:
>>>> On Thursday 01 May 2014 09:56 AM, A V Mahesh wrote:
>>>>> Hi Surya,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/1/2014 7:28 AM, Suryanarayana Garlapati wrote:
>>>>>> Nack.
>>>>>> MDS ARCHWORD is used for deciding the factor whether the message
>>>>>> which is being sent to the destination should be encoded
>>>>>> full/flat/copied. This
>>>>>> bits were introduced to do a optimization in the way the callbacks
>>>>>> encode full/flat are called. For example, if there are two
>>>>>> processes(can be present in the same node or different node) and
>>>>>> there architecture and bit size is same, so in this case, the
>>>>>> encode flat can be called (or simply a flat copy of the message can
>>>>>> be done in the UB). If these bits were not used, earlier the
>>>>>> messages was being full encoded when the messages were sent to
>>>>>> another node. At the same time, the arch field is given in the
>>>>>> configure such that this can be used for different architectures
>>>>>> such as the powerpc, etc.
>>>>> [AVM]
>>>>>       “ARCHTYPE”  is getting only used while cross-compiling, and to
>>>>> distinguish architecture flavors:  x86,
>>>>>        PowerPC, m68k ,ect .
>>>>> In the code "arch_word" is used while encoding whether  to do
>>>>> MDS_ENC_TYPE_FLAT/MDS_ENC_TYPE_FULL.
>>>>>
>>>>>        Keeping  “ARCHTYPE” doesn't have any significance in current
>>>>> Open-sourced Opnesaf code ,
>>>> [Surya] This is provided to accommodate different architectures and
>>>> is a build option which optimizes the applications way of message
>>>> encoding(full/flat) and corresponding decode(full/flat).
>>>> So that means, you want to remove this support and introduce the over
>>>> head again. One more thing, with the new changes if you have two
>>>> nodes one with powerpc and intel, both will not be able to communicate
>>>> each other as both will result in flat encode/flat decode(as the
>>>> value is one with the latest changes).
>>>>> why because  In the current MDS messaging we do full encoded when
>>>>> the messages were sent to another process/node, irrelevant of
>>>>> “ARCHTYPE”
>>>> [Surya] Wrong, the decision is done always on the archword only.
>>>>>        I already verified  cross 32/64  middle-ware & application
>>>>> combination , all the fowls are working fine .
>>>> [Surya] As you said this might work, but you are loosing the
>>>> optimization and would always result in full encode/full decode of
>>>> application messages which is an overhead.
>>>>>> I am thinking of a solution for this and will get back to you.
>>>>> [AVM] we already have an alternative option of  new node do install
>>>>> & subscribe its Node Mds version, to handle in-service Upgrade ,
>>>>>              but we used legacy “ARCHTYPE” 3 bits for Mds version
>>>>> which is optimized solution then install & subscribe.
>>>> [Surya] Thats what we had discussed before as well. The archtype is
>>>> not a legacy one, it was introduced to have the optimization for the
>>>> message encoding by the applications.
>>>>> -AVM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Surya
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: osafde...@gmail.com
>>>>>> To: mahesh.va...@oracle.com
>>>>>> Cc: opensaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:58:53 AM GMT +05:30 Chennai,
>>>>>> Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi
>>>>>> Subject: [devel] [PATCH 3 of 4] mds: use TIPC
>>>>>> segmentation/reassembly [#654]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    configure.ac                          |  21 ---------------------
>>>>>>    osaf/libs/core/mds/Makefile.am        |   1 -
>>>>>>    osaf/libs/core/mds/include/mds_dt2c.h |  17 ++++++++---------
>>>>>>    osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_c_sndrcv.c     |  14 +++++---------
>>>>>>    osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_dt_tipc.c      |  11 ++++++++++-
>>>>>>    osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_log.c          |   4 ++--
>>>>>>    6 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 43 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIPC supports sending message with a maximum length of 66000 bytes.
>>>>>> MDS supports
>>>>>> sending even bigger messages, upto ~46Mb. MDS has used an internal
>>>>>> fragmentation
>>>>>> of just 1400 bytes (MDTM_NORMAL_MSG_FRAG_SIZE) despite that the
>>>>>> receive buffer
>>>>>> is 8000 bytes (MDS_DIRECT_BUF_MAXSIZE)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch changes MDS to use TIPC segmentation/reassembly. This
>>>>>> gives benefits
>>>>>> such as secure transmission (TIPC does retransmission). TIPC send
>>>>>> congestion is
>>>>>> reduced since TIPC counts messages not bytes. Less processing done
>>>>>> in user
>>>>>> space in the sending opensaf or client process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the receive buffer of older MDS cores is limited to 8000
>>>>>> bytes we have be
>>>>>> sure not to send larger messages than that to older cores.
>>>>>> Otherwise we have
>>>>>> problems with in-service upgradeability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each MDS TIPC port is bound to a functional address - a port name.
>>>>>> The port name
>>>>>> consists of 32 bit type and 32 bit instance. The 4 msb of the
>>>>>> instance word
>>>>>> contains the so called "archword" field. The msb indicates if this
>>>>>> MDS core is
>>>>>> 32 or 64 bit. The remaining 3 bits is now used as a version field.
>>>>>> Version 0 is
>>>>>> used by older versions of MDS, version 1 is now used to indicate
>>>>>> the capability
>>>>>> for longer fragmentation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This information is part of the published port name thus a
>>>>>> subscriber will
>>>>>> get them using the TIPC discovery service. These bits are ignored
>>>>>> by old MDS
>>>>>> cores, so it can receive messages from a new MDS core. When sending
>>>>>> a message
>>>>>> this bit is used to understand if the peer uses TIPC
>>>>>> segmentation/reassembly
>>>>>> (or not) and adapt the limit accordingly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The possibility to set mds_arch using configure has been removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The change is in-service compliant and can be upgraded into a system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac
>>>>>> --- a/configure.ac
>>>>>> +++ b/configure.ac
>>>>>> @@ -470,27 +470,6 @@ if test "$enable_java" = no; then
>>>>>>    fi
>>>>>>      #############################################
>>>>>> -# MDS ARCH TYPE: MDS advises message encode/decode
>>>>>> -# optimization to its clients if the sender and receiver
>>>>>> -# are of "compatible-type". For this optimization to work,
>>>>>> -# the sender's platform and receiver's platform should be
>>>>>> -# similar (for e.g. both PowerPC) and use an libncs_core built
>>>>>> -# with the same value for "mds_arch". An "mds_arch" value of 0
>>>>>> -# is the default value and stands for a platform which is NOT
>>>>>> -# compatible with any platform.
>>>>>> -#############################################
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> -AC_ARG_VAR([mds_arch], [The arch-type input to MDS - valid values
>>>>>> 1-7])
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> -if test "$mds_arch" = ""; then
>>>>>> -        mdsarchtype=0
>>>>>> -else
>>>>>> -        mdsarchtype=$mds_arch
>>>>>> -fi
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> -AC_SUBST([MDS_WORD_ARCH_FLAGS], [" -DMDS_ARCH_TYPE=$mdsarchtype"])
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> -#############################################
>>>>>>    # Checks for libraries.
>>>>>>    #############################################
>>>>>>    PKG_CHECK_MODULES([XML2], [libxml-2.0])
>>>>>> diff --git a/osaf/libs/core/mds/Makefile.am
>>>>>> b/osaf/libs/core/mds/Makefile.am
>>>>>> --- a/osaf/libs/core/mds/Makefile.am
>>>>>> +++ b/osaf/libs/core/mds/Makefile.am
>>>>>> @@ -23,7 +23,6 @@ SUBDIRS = include
>>>>>>    noinst_LTLIBRARIES = libmds.la
>>>>>>      libmds_la_CPPFLAGS = \
>>>>>> -    @MDS_WORD_ARCH_FLAGS@ \
>>>>>>        $(AM_CPPFLAGS)
>>>>>>      libmds_la_LDFLAGS = -static
>>>>>> diff --git a/osaf/libs/core/mds/include/mds_dt2c.h
>>>>>> b/osaf/libs/core/mds/include/mds_dt2c.h
>>>>>> --- a/osaf/libs/core/mds/include/mds_dt2c.h
>>>>>> +++ b/osaf/libs/core/mds/include/mds_dt2c.h
>>>>>> @@ -33,17 +33,16 @@
>>>>>>      typedef uint8_t MDS_SVC_ARCHWORD_TYPE;    /*MDS  app-svc arch
>>>>>> and word_size combination */
>>>>>>    -/* MDS_WORD_SIZE_TYPE and MDS_ARCH_TYPE are compile-time macros */
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> -#ifndef MDS_ARCH_TYPE
>>>>>> -#define MDS_ARCH_TYPE 0        /* Stands for unspecified
>>>>>> architecture type */
>>>>>> -#elif (MDS_ARCH_TYPE > 7)
>>>>>> -#error MDS_ARCH_TYPE should be in the range 0 to 7.
>>>>>> -#endif
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>    #define MDS_WORD_SIZE_TYPE ((sizeof(long)/4) - 1)    /* 0 for
>>>>>> 32-bit, 1 for 64-bit */
>>>>>>    -#define MDS_SELF_ARCHWORD    ((MDS_SVC_ARCHWORD_TYPE)
>>>>>> ((MDS_WORD_SIZE_TYPE<<3) | MDS_ARCH_TYPE))
>>>>>> +/*
>>>>>> + * 4 bit ARCHWORD usage:
>>>>>> + * Bit 3 is wordsize
>>>>>> + * Bit 2:0 is a version field indicating capabilities.
>>>>>> + *    Version 0 uses 1400 bytes fragmentation.
>>>>>> + *    Version 1 uses TIPC max msg (66000 bytes) fragmentation.
>>>>>> + */
>>>>>> +#define MDS_SELF_ARCHWORD ((MDS_SVC_ARCHWORD_TYPE)
>>>>>> ((MDS_WORD_SIZE_TYPE<<3) | 1))
>>>>>>      typedef enum {
>>>>>>        MDS_VIEW_NORMAL,
>>>>>> diff --git a/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_c_sndrcv.c
>>>>>> b/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_c_sndrcv.c
>>>>>> --- a/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_c_sndrcv.c
>>>>>> +++ b/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_c_sndrcv.c
>>>>>> @@ -1483,10 +1483,10 @@ static uint32_t mcm_msg_encode_full_or_f
>>>>>>        msg_send.dest_pwe_id =
>>>>>> m_MDS_GET_PWE_ID_FROM_SVC_HDL(svc_cb->svc_hdl);
>>>>>>        msg_send.dest_vdest_id = dest_vdest_id;
>>>>>>        msg_send.src_svc_sub_part_ver = svc_cb->svc_sub_part_ver;
>>>>>> +    msg_send.msg_arch_word = to_msg->rem_svc_arch_word;
>>>>>>        if (msg_send.msg.encoding == MDS_ENC_TYPE_FULL) {
>>>>>>            if (NULL == bcast_ptr) {
>>>>>> -            msg_send.msg_fmt_ver =
>>>>>> cbinfo.info.enc.o_msg_fmt_ver;    /* archword will be filled in
>>>>>> next label */
>>>>>> -            msg_send.msg_arch_word = to_msg->rem_svc_arch_word;
>>>>>> +            msg_send.msg_fmt_ver = cbinfo.info.enc.o_msg_fmt_ver;
>>>>>>            }
>>>>>>        } else {
>>>>>>            if (NULL == bcast_ptr) {
>>>>>> @@ -6502,14 +6502,10 @@ static uint32_t mcm_query_for_node_dest_
>>>>>>        if (m_MDS_GET_ADEST == adest) {
>>>>>>            *to = DESTINATION_SAME_PROCESS;
>>>>>>        } else if (MDS_SELF_ARCHWORD == arch_word) {
>>>>>> -        if ((0 == (MDS_SELF_ARCHWORD & 0x7) && (0 == (arch_word &
>>>>>> 0x7)))) {
>>>>>> -            if (m_MDS_GET_NODE_ID_FROM_ADEST(m_MDS_GET_ADEST) ==
>>>>>> m_MDS_GET_NODE_ID_FROM_ADEST(adest)) {
>>>>>> -                *to = DESTINATION_ON_NODE;    /* This hash define
>>>>>> may give a wrong impression, but actually it means to do flat_enc */
>>>>>> -            } else {
>>>>>> -                *to = DESTINATION_OFF_NODE;
>>>>>> -            }
>>>>>> +        if (m_MDS_GET_NODE_ID_FROM_ADEST(m_MDS_GET_ADEST) ==
>>>>>> m_MDS_GET_NODE_ID_FROM_ADEST(adest)) {
>>>>>> +            *to = DESTINATION_ON_NODE;    /* This hash define may
>>>>>> give a wrong impression, but actually it means to do flat_enc */
>>>>>>            } else {
>>>>>> -            *to = DESTINATION_ON_NODE;
>>>>>> +            *to = DESTINATION_OFF_NODE;
>>>>>>            }
>>>>>>        } else {
>>>>>>            *to = DESTINATION_OFF_NODE;
>>>>>> diff --git a/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_dt_tipc.c
>>>>>> b/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_dt_tipc.c
>>>>>> --- a/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_dt_tipc.c
>>>>>> +++ b/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_dt_tipc.c
>>>>>> @@ -2035,7 +2035,16 @@ uint32_t mds_mdtm_send_tipc(MDTM_SEND_RE
>>>>>>                    m_MDS_LOG_INFO("MDTM: User Sending Data lenght=%d
>>>>>> Fr_svc=%d to_svc=%d\n", len,
>>>>>>                               req->src_svc_id, req->dest_svc_id);
>>>>>>    -                int frag_size = MDTM_NORMAL_MSG_FRAG_SIZE;
>>>>>> +                // determine fragment limit using a bit in
>>>>>> destination archword
>>>>>> +                int frag_size;
>>>>>> +                int version = req->msg_arch_word & 0x7;
>>>>>> +                if (version > 0) {
>>>>>> +                    // normal mode, use TIPC fragmentation
>>>>>> +                    frag_size = TIPC_MAX_USER_MSG_SIZE;
>>>>>> +                } else {
>>>>>> +                    // old mode, completely skip TIPC fragmentation
>>>>>> +                    frag_size = MDTM_NORMAL_MSG_FRAG_SIZE;
>>>>>> +                }
>>>>>>                      if (len > frag_size) {
>>>>>>                        /* Packet needs to be fragmented and send */
>>>>>> diff --git a/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_log.c
>>>>>> b/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_log.c
>>>>>> --- a/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_log.c
>>>>>> +++ b/osaf/libs/core/mds/mds_log.c
>>>>>> @@ -64,8 +64,8 @@ uint32_t mds_log_init(char *log_file_nam
>>>>>>          if ((fh = fopen(lf, "a+")) != NULL) {
>>>>>>            fclose(fh);
>>>>>> -        log_mds_notify("BEGIN MDS LOGGING|
>>>>>> PID=%d|ARCH=%d|64bit=%ld\n",
>>>>>> -                   process_id, MDS_ARCH_TYPE,
>>>>>> (long)MDS_WORD_SIZE_TYPE);
>>>>>> +        log_mds_notify("BEGIN MDS LOGGING|
>>>>>> PID=%d|ARCHW=%x|64bit=%ld\n",
>>>>>> +                   process_id, MDS_SELF_ARCHWORD,
>>>>>> (long)MDS_WORD_SIZE_TYPE);
>>>>>>        }
>>>>>>          return NCSCC_RC_SUCCESS;
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