In other words,

Why don't you take this to the Mono development e-mail list.   Because
i'm sure that they have a lot more experience dealing with people who
cherry pick the Microsoft/Mono thing.    OpenSimulator is in
.NET/Mono.    That's the way it is.   If you want to rewrite it in
your favorite language, you're welcome to do so.  The license allows
you do to that.     This isn't about being right or wrong, this is
about this line of conversation being completely irrelevant.

Best Regards

Teravus

On 4/5/09, Eugen Leitl <eu...@leitl.org> wrote:
> ----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> -----
>
> From: Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com>
> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:44:08 -0700
> To: linux-eliti...@zgp.org
> Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] [Opensim-dev] Mono considered harmful
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> Quoting Eugen Leitl (eu...@leitl.org):
>
> > IANAL, does below explanation by Adam hold water?
>
> You don't have to be a lawyer to know that it's rubbish on two separate
> grounds.
>
> Yes, C# is an ECMA standard.  However:
>
> (1) It doesn't follow that ECMA International has any power to "forbid"
> patent holders from suing anyone over anything, let alone patent
> infringement.  I mean, think about it:  Does Adam think ECMA
> International is Microsoft Corporation's daddy?  That it owns 51% of the
> issued and outstanding common stock?  At worst, it might be possible for
> ECMA International to be very deeply disappointed in Microsoft's
> behaviour at some future point, decertify particular things, and
> otherwise carry out mild actions that _are_ within its power.
>
> More important:
>
> (2) In any event, ECMA International does not even _profess_ to
> disapprove of suing patent infringers.  It merely has a "Code of Conduct
> in Patent Matters"
> (http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/codeofconduct.htm), setting
> ECMA policy that the group will approve standards only if it has written
> assurances from applicant that applicable patents will be licensed on a
> "reasonable, non-discriminatory basis".  (That term of art is typically
> referred to as RAND terms.)
>
> Has Adam Frisby completely missed the last decade of standards warfare?
> The proprietary camp has repeatedly attempted to get the World Wide Web
> Consortium to start accepting "RAND" patent licensing, instead of
> requiring that applicants certify that covering patents will be
> _royalty-free_.  This arm-twisting failed, because of diligent focussing
> of attention from open source people.  W3C has stuck to its guns and
> insistend on royalty-free patent licensing.
>
> To spell it out:  "Reasonable" means obligatory patent royalty payments.
> Which means no open source implementations of those standards.
>
> And that is one reason why ECMA standards can be (and often are) issued
> on terms hostile to open source, whereas W3C standards are reliable and
> open-source-friendly.
>
> Sheesh.
>
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