Felix Schulte wrote:
> The project started with the goal to introduce ksh93 without adding
> any incompatibilities to existing ksh93 versions and you are proposing
> such a change against the counsel of both the project team and David
> Korn.

The proposal for this project, as originally mailed at the start of this
thread, and posted at 
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2006/550/materials/proposal/
states that all of libcmd will be Project Private, thus nothing outside of
the ksh93 binaries shipped with this project will be using it, and nothing
other than them needs to be modified if libcmd is renamed.

If there are any incompatibilities with software outside this project
introduced by renaming libcmd, then the proposal is incorrect and should not
have called libcmd Project Private.   The ARC can't be expected to know that
any incompatibilities would be introduced when the materials presented by the
project team state otherwise.

It's clear that what the project team understands about libcmd and what is
conveyed to the ARC about libcmd in the proposal aren't quite in sync, and
that's lead to most of the argument here, leaving everyone confused.

> I think this these are clear words from someone who did lots of work
> and investigation on ksh93 in Solaris and I am supporting this
> decision. If you or Sun want to introduce an incompatible version of
> ksh93 to Solaris then you have to do it alone and I think noone from
> the Opensolaris community will help you with that work

Sun already has a incompatible version of ksh93 called dtksh, why would
we need another?  8-)

And I know ksh93 is very important to you and Roland and others on the
ksh93 list, but threats like that don't work well - Sun has shipped
Solaris for years without a decent ksh93 included and can continue to
do so - it's not a make or break feature that's going to affect many
millions of dollars in sales - if it was, a whole team could be assigned
to make it happen ASAP.   It would be good to have, and we're happy to
work with Roland & David & Glenn to make it happen, so lets try to keep
it civil.

-- 
        -Alan Coopersmith-           alan.coopersmith at sun.com
         Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

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