> I'd like to point out that we are proposing to do here is pretty darn close > to what we as > ARC members have objected to in multiple JES proposals.
Are you suggesting then that inside the bundled product, only one version of each component be shipped? One version of Apache? One version of Perl? Could you clarify perhaps some of the issue surrounding JES for those on the open PSARC list? > Let's assume that we allowed the versioned directories (and no "latest link", > because > that won't help and only complicates the discussion). Assume we ship > 1.2.3.4-tuesday > and 1.3.2.4-thursday. What do we do with the CR from a customer that > requests > 1.2.4.5-wednesday? Do we just ignore it, asserting the versions are just for > our special > selected set of applications? I assume we do the same thing that we do generally with such customer requests - we evaluate the request, weigh its severity and the opportunity is provides with all the other work we want/need to do and make a call on whether to implement it or not. We (and I mean the OpenSolaris community and not just Sun) will need to make choices on what things we should be spending our time on. And the distros (such as Sun) need to decide what to include in their distribution given what's available and their own support model. Distros, of course, can choose to not incorporate parts of OpenSolaris if they choose to (or to choose something like KDE over GNOME, PHP4 instead of PHP5, etc). > I don't want to debate this too long in e-mail. The adding of these multiple > versioned > directories, which require a yet unspecified inclusion/support policy, simply > pushes > this out of the domain of a fast-track. We will be much more efficient > discussing this > in a meeting (or several). Does that mean that you're derailing this, Joe? I'd just like to know so we can begin to gather what questions need to be answered and then schedule a full review? I'm not trying to minimize the good issues that have been brought up here. What was being proposed was the initial integration of PHP into OpenSolaris. Stefan tried to take into account (following the Perl model) with his proposal the ability to have multiple versions of the technology available on the system. How those potential versions are managed is important but for the moment, we're talking about a single version. > If we pursue the multiple version, I'd like to be pleasantly surprised to be > presented a > support model which is workable and cost effective. One might be possible > for a > very limited number of versions (PHP4, PHP5). I'd be quite surprised if one > was > possible for arbitrarily deep versions. Again using the Perl model as an example, my thinking has been that there would tend to be two versions. dsc
