Stefan Teleman writes:
> The PHP Group has *no interest whatsoever* in Solaris. This may change in the 
> future, but it is highly unlikely to change within a predictable timeframe.

Perhaps there's a miscommunication here.

I somewhat agree with John about the design pattern issue, and I agree
with his "would like to see" comments about pushing the changes back
upstream -- I think the same thing is true in many other projects --
but I can't see gating integration on any such thing.

The project team is the one that has to sign up to maintain any local
deltas.  I think it's fine advice to say "try to minimize by pushing
upstream," but not something that ought to be a requirement as it
slaves Solaris architecture to third-party politics.

> I would caution that tying the approval of this ARC Case to the acceptance 
> upstream (by the PHP Group) of our build configuration tweaks and directory 
> structure changes, is functionally equivalent to derailing this ARC Case 
> indefinitely.

A process note for others listening in on the discussion: the above
text implies something other than what "derail" means in this context.
"Derail" actually means "this isn't a fast-track; it requires a full
review."  It's not a pejorative term, and there's no way to apply a
time span to it ("indefinitely").

Cases that either require extensive discussion (this one might be
that way) or that require a written ARC opinion (John's design pattern
request would need that) cannot be handled as fast-tracks.  They're
derailed so that the meeting can happen (if needed) and the opinion
written (always required).

The right term would be "deny," but I don't think this case is near
that.

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