James Carlson wrote:
> Joep Vesseur writes:
>> Of course, this applies to a lot of programs, but I think for
>> many administrators, tcpdump is on the top of their lists.

Maybe off topic but tcpdump for OpenSolaris is available and can
be downloaded from the contrib repo (http://pkg.opensolaris.org/contrib)
Admittedly 3.9.8 as opposed to 4.0 - worth getting it up rev'ed there.

>>
>> Also, even though wireshark might be the preferred open source candidate
>> for us, tcpdump is here to stay for a long time.
> 
> Pity the poor folks who write protocols for a living.  Which one of
> these tools -- snoop, wireshark, tcpdump -- should we attempt to
> update to support our projects?  Should we try to update them all?
> Should we pick one because we think it's nifty?
> 
> Worse still, if you look at tcpdump carefully, you'll see that it's
> essentially a subset of tshark, the command-line version of wireshark,
> including the same default file format, and even the same capture
> filters.  But wireshark is far more capable and includes an extended
> filter syntax, more file formats, and a highly functional GUI
> (reminiscent of the old Network General Sniffer).
> 
> This is an architectural mess, and this sort of unnecessary "choice"
> has serious costs associated with it.  It affects many others, and not
> just those people who are building these random packages and
> delivering them.  Plus, it's a waste of time: we should be delivering
> wireshark, but we haven't, even though the skids have been properly
> greased.
> 
> I'm making a plea for some thought to be put into the process.  Can we
> please do that?  Or have we just completely given up on system
> architecture and the effects that one random project can have on
> another?
> 

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