On 10/11/05, S Destika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wasn't discussing how good Redhat or Suse's support is - Even Sun > support has sucked upon me - it all depends on who is handling your > case. I can't say Sun ever made stuff up when they couldn't help me. They also publish Bug IDs that are fixed in particular patches, so I have some idea what is in new revisions. And you were discussing how good their support was, you made direct claims about how "Enterprises" use them. It sounded suspiciously like a direct endorsement.
> Can you detail which apps broke upon you recently and since you claim > to be > knowing more than RH support does, do you know why they were > broken? I mean come on - I use binaries from 2001 today and they work > just > fine. Unless you use *broken* apps which are coded to depend on > non-standard, unpublished features, I bet your programs are going to > work. Hell, even changes as big as NPTL didn't cause trouble with > *sanely coded* applications. And the segfaults - you must be running a > broken kernel or broken app. Former surely will get fixed if you have > support contract with RH / SUSE that's even better, but even if you don't > > just drop a mail to linux-kernel. Surely get fixed? Have you tried it? The applications are too numerous to list, anything program of scale has a potential to fail. Where would I even begin... NetCDF is pretty touchy for one, and extremely widely used. I'm not impressed if you have 2001 era programs that still run--I have Linux bins from 1996 that still run, its because they're small and statically compiled, surprise surprise. > What you said is _clearly_ a case of spreading FUD, uninvited, > particularly when we are discussing scalability and performance here. > You are of course welcome to use what you like and what suits you but > when > you say something back it up with facts, logic and numbers > instead of questioning somebody else's experiences. No, I addressed your particular claims about enterprises using Linux systems. I could reference your particular messages in which you made your claims, but it would probably be a waste of time. I question why are you advocating something you seem to have no direct experience with, and I want to know what actual applications you think the SPEC benchmarks reflect. In my own comparions with the applications we use, I've found Solaris and Redhat have very little to do with the actual performance, most of it seems to be compiler dependent, and so the major issue for me is whether or not I get reasonable uptime, stability, etc. so we can run our stuff in the first place. Dave _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
