[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other hand I never use the pageup/pagedown on the numeric
keypad because all those keys exist elsewhere.
I use them all the time.
I don't even really understand why a full size keyboard like
a Sun type 6/7 even needs the different states.
On MacOS X there is no way to ever change the state of NumLock
is is always On. Even on a Sun Type 6.
So, MacOS X is broken. What else is new.
Personally I disagree and I think they got it correct. On an Apple
keyboard there is no NumLock button.
Apple knows a LOT more about usability than most of us do and they get
it right for naive users much more than Solaris does.
I think the real problem here is that the terminal settings
at this point during boot are not sufficiently sane that
"1" sent "End" and it was interpreted as End or properly ignored; rather
than displaying the control sequence. If that were the case the user
would probably have noticed NumLock wasn't on and either turn it on
or used the "1" on the main keyboard.
That's because the install program doesn't deal with *terminal* settings
at all. It must have everything hardcoded because if you set TERM to
"xterm" it doesn't accept xterm function sequences.
So it's not an issue of "terminal settings wrong"; it's an issue of
"broken program which really only deals with one terminal type.
Either way the user sees garbage and has a bad experience.
I often see this issue as well and it is very annoying.
People who can type blind never use the numeric keypad for digits.
I very very strongly disagree, I can touch type on a keyboard with no
markings on it what so ever (as long as I know if it is a PC or UNIX
layout) [ my laptop is heading that way slowly ]; however I use the
numeric keypad for numbers only and usually use that if it is more than
3 digits (for example bug numbers that I type rather than copy/paste are
typed on the number pad).
I guess it depends on your background more than anything else and I grew
up using the numeric keypad for numbers. The only time I've ever used
it for anything other than numbers is when assigning them to actions
while playing games.
Since PCs have a default "Numlock on" setting, I see no reason to
enforce this in Solaris; certainly not at the detriment of people who
go out of their way to disable it or who hit numlock as soon as they see
the numlock light come on.
I guess we are just in opposite camps here because I always hit NumLock
to put it ON if I sit down at a keyboard with the light off!
--
Darren J Moffat
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