> On Oct 19, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>> Shao Wu wrote:
>>
>>> For persnal use, I would suggest to go with AMD -- you can swap
>>> the processor at a later time for a faster cpu or for quart-core
>>> chips without replacing the machine.  Just make sure your machine
>>> is using AM2 socket (AMD machines that are using DDR2 memory
>>> modules).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Go the SPARC way of life.
>> I recommend you a cheap used SunBlade 1000 (==2000).
>> ebay ...
>>
>> The sb1k/2k will never disappoint you.
>> It's only a bit power hungry but it is worth that extra money.
>> It's one of the fastest sun4u machines, still.
>> Very reliable, expandable (i.e. ieee1394a external hdds) and silent.
>>
>> No RISC no fun.
>>
>>
>> AMD64 boxes are admittedly also tempting, I agree.
>> But is it love??
>
> I give you 8/10 on the RichTeer[1] scale
>
>
>
> [1] The RichTeer scale is the official rating system
>      for SPARC bigotry ;o)
>

There is also a Dennis Clarke scale which consists of some hardline
blatant opinions and rants.

While I hear that AMD Opterons are real real quick, and I must say that
they are, I am of the _opinion_ that programmers[1] have not yet caught
up to the capabilities of the UltraSparc T1 processor.  If we want to do
a quick count of registers that are available on the high speed internal
bus of the chip then I think that the UltraSparc is in the heavyweight
class and all other chips on the market stand in its shadow.  IBM is in
the process of making threats about a new super killer Power processor
but, much like the Itanium, it doesn't seem to be shipping.  I can not
actually put my hands on it or even code a single NOP on it.  Why?

Because it doesn't bloody exist.  Thats why.

I have a DEC Alpha 21164 server here in my life these days and it was a
real killer machine in its day.  I think that the AMD Opteron has some
brilliance due to the same engineers and scientists that worked on the
DEC Alpha.  Its a thing of beauty that Opteron, no doubt.

But compared to the UltraSparc T1 ?

I think the UltraSparc T1 can run circles around just about anything on
the market.  As soon as I get my hands on one of them I'll be sure to
prove it with some slick assembly.

Anyways ... thats my opinion.

Dennis

[1] or compilers. Studio 11 looks to be really near perfect.  Near.

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