UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HP-UX? Now that's a joke. hp being the braindead company they are, first
> killed off DECUnix (pardon, "Tru64"), and they haven't really done much of
> anything other than some minimal catching up, all while grinding their teeth,
> on HP-UX.
>
> I should know, since I have pretty recent HP-UX systems - at home!
Do you have a HP-UX-11.x system?
> So, who exactly is left, other than Solaris, in the UNIX arena? There is
> nobody to set any standards, and there is nobody to follow them - just
> Solaris left not to break the existing ones.
> Any new standards will be set by Solaris for everybody else to follow. That's
> about the only UNIX left that is still innovating.
Well, there is AIX but I am not sure whether IBM takes it for real
and I know of no "hacker" who is using AIX as development platform.
Making Solaris by default Linux alike looks really strange as most of the
"Linux innovations" are just taken from other platforms (mainly Solaris).
SunOS had the biggest influence on UNIX in the past 20+ years.
We will not bring Solaris where it has been until 1995 by empty actions but
by creating and showing new visions on the future of UNIX.
Note that you will not get to the masses by vivions and note that the masses
need only few things to be happy. Look at Mac OS X it is completely outdated
from a OS point of view but people love it.
In order to get to the massed you need to do few things to the immovable Linux
users that allows them to easily _find_ "their" shell setup variant.
But you will not really get new users this way. To get really new users that
will bring you new customers in the future, you need to show new visions
and bring it to the universities. Sun is very happy with the easy success
in east Europe but conentrating to east Europe only is the wrong way. We
need agressive approaches to universities in Western Europe and the USA.
If you loose the market in the places that others still takes an example from
you will again loose the complete market.
Compared to other marketing activities from Sun, this would be cheap and the
current idea of "project Indiana" looks to me like a Sun OpenSolaris
distribution that (if done the way it currently seems) will most likely embrace
and crush the sensitive plants that are the real free grown distributions.
Jörg
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