Al You might want to step down from that mountain top and call a cigar just a cigar. Don't make excuses for a rude, arrogant person.
Anne -----Original Message----- From: Al Hopper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:07 PM To: Angie Moore Cc: 'Martin Bochnig'; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] back to windows share -possible automated? On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Angie Moore wrote: > Wow, you're helpful and condescending/smartass all in one! I suggest > you learn your manners. Angie - I believe that you're reading more "intonation" into Martins' reply than was intended or than was actually present. What you've failed to realize, is that people from other cultures often have a very different writing style and use English words "differently" - because they are writing in other than their native tongue. This would be entirely obvious to you if you had lived/worked outside the US for a period of time longer than 3 months. If you re-read Martins post ... again ... with what I've said in mind, I think you'll see that what I just said above is accurate. IOW - his post is subject to a completely different and innocent intrepetation given that he is thinking in German and writing in English. As an aside, if you were to write a post to a German technical mailing list using your best efforts to write in german - I'm sure that you would use words/phrases that would be likely to upset a native german speaker. The difference is that most Europeans are used to people from other cultures (including Americans) posting to mailing lists and are usually prepared to cut them a *lot* of slack before they fly off the handle and assume that they actually *meant* to be "condescending", sarcastic or act as a "smartass". Bear in mind that OpenSolaris is a global project with a large number of community members who are not based in the USA and who do not have English as their primary (spoken) language. With this post in mind, do you wish to give Martin the benefit of the doubt? And do you realize why he says that he wished he had never replied - despite the fact that he had no intention of insulting you in any way or to provide other than the best help possible - given the scanty details you provided in the original post? Another example: I lived/worked overseas in Morocco (North Africa) for an extended period of time. When a Moroccan screwed up and you got really mad at him (usually one only interacted with males in the workplace) and you were yelling and screaming in his face, his reaction was, assuming that he realized that he had totally screwed up and was 110% embarrassed, to smile. Yes - he would show you his white teeth and smile in your face. Well - imagine if you're really pissed off at someone and they start smiling back at you! What is your typical (European/American) reaction going to be? Yes - you're going to get even more mad at the individual; when, in reality, you've already achieved your goal and the person you're yelling at has already _silently_ admitted his screwup/embarrassment - by smiling back at you. The correct reaction (to the smile) is to say: "OK - thanks - please don't screw up like that again". And then we move forward - water under the bridge - tomorrow is a new day. > BTW, my proposal is actually better than yours. Star has too many > limitations, compared the usefulness of smbmount to a Windows share. > You use smbmount in combination with cpio and it works wonderfully. If > you want some help, just shoot me an email. Your proposal is actually "quite odd." Based on what I wrote above - how bad does your reply now look. Hopefully you don't have the keys to a minute man silo handy! :) > Anne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Bochnig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:33 PM > To: Angie Moore > Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] back to windows share -possible automated? > > Hi Anne, > > Angie Moore wrote: >> All >> >> I'm trying to backup my Open Solaris box to one of our Windows shares. >> I'm trying to do this using a rather simple Bash script. However, I'm >> using the smbmount command to do it, but it needs a password to be >> inputted to work. Does anyone know how I can pass a password on a >> Bash script? > > the common syntax should be > <protocol>://<username>:<password>@<IPv4-Adress> >> >> Or >> >> Is there a better way to backing up my Open Solaris system to a >> Windows 2003 share? It seems that the smbmount command is a bit a >> headache. >> > > Aehm, certainly: Come up with something else (as your proposal is > quite odd). > What do you intend to backup, somebody's $HOME ? (Why do you want to > do it that way, is there a special reason?) > > Otherwise use star, tar or ufsdump. Or cpio. Though not in conjunction > with MS-WinNT, as for the latter two. > Best might be using star or /usr/bin/tar to do incremental backups to DDS/4. > Else star' into a file and cp that file over to the WinNT box. > Simply copying over actual Solaris files (from ufs or zfs) makes no > sense (except for $HOME, with limitations), as the file systems are > too different and you cannot copy misc. special files or links to > whatever fstype which WinNT might understand (FAT/FAT32(/HPFS3)/NTFS[4|5]). > Or use cdrecord in conjunction with rewritable DVD media, potentially > DL (9GB), use iso9660/hsfs, allow certain exceptions from the original > standard to allow filenames to begin with a period and such things. > > Nevertheless, with star (then backing up the tar file) you might be > best served, in terms of potential data loss (file names and or file types). > > %m > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > Regards, Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX. 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