W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > You people are accusing "Whoever those person or persons may be" of being a > dictator, but you don't have any problem being one when "you" are on the > driver's seat. > Who is you? If you're talking to James - then well... um.. yeah. He is an OGB member. > Have you ever consulted (or even thought about) the opinions of little people > like me and a bunch of others in a like situation who continue to be ignored, > mis-represented, and, worse, abused? > Yeah - we do routinely talk to people. And being "ignored, mis-represented, and worse, abused" goes both ways. > I am very confident that the Solaris rejuvenation movement is much bigger > than a bunch of Solaris old farts who thought they represent the > "Community"--whatever that means. > The OpenSolaris Community elected us. So yeah, I do kind of think we represent the community. > >From the very first day the news about Indiana came about, I always imagined > >that it would become a de jure OpenSolaris distro. In fact, if you have > >ever been in a position to try to pitch Solaris to businesses and government > >entities, you will probably come to the same conclusion. You can express > >your opinion, but you have to make it damn clear that it is your own > >opinion, plus perhaps a handful (five fingers) of others. It does not, at > >the very least, speak that of mine. > Go look at the avalanche of replies in the thread. Count up the number of dissenting opinions. If you've concluded that it's a handful of people, then I'd like to see a photo of your hand and how many fingers you have on it. > I want to echo Mr. Murdock's sentiment: I really can't understand why the big > fuss is about. Linus writes no more than 5% of the Linux kernel, but, like > it or not, he has (at least used to have) absolute control over the release > of and everything there is to do with Linux. Don't like his decision, there > was Alan Cox (now Andrew Morton) who always provides follow-up kernel patches. > I'll put at simply as I can. The name, and the announcement implies it has the backing and blessing of the OpenSolaris Community. No such backing or blessing has been given.
Is that so hard to understand? > I officially joined the OpenSolaris.org almost two and half years ago. I > would very much like to consider myself a member of the "community". But I > can't, because I really don't know what the "community" is. I am sure the > so-called "community" would be more credible if some of the Solaris gurus who > have often shown a propensity to control or at least affect the direction of > OpenSolaris could first try to make a concerted effort to help those > struggling/frustrating newcomers like myself. That way, you/they will have a > better chance to win our respect and thus support when there is a conflict > with Sun's management. > And Indiana is a perfectly good way to solve this. We're not disputing Indiana's existence. Just the fact that it is co-opting the name. cheers, steve -- stephen lau | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.whacked.net _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org