I think Phenom is your only option at the moment. As for pointers, maybe this is helpful:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739_15343,00.html Mark list.serv.address wrote: > Mark, > Thank you for all the information. What I am trying to do is find a > consumer product name that can be easily associated with K8 vs K10 > architectures. This is the issue for those purchasing machines to put > OpenSolaris on. When looking online, generally speaking the > architecture is not something that HP (or other system builder) puts on > it's sales material. I am just trying to find out as much information > as I can. When I last went to the AMD site, I could find stepping and > related information, but not what architecture each chip was based on. > If I missed that information, please point me in the right direction, it > would be greatly appreciated. > > This is where I have been looking. > > http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUFilter.aspx > > I haven't been able to find any mention on any of the product pages for > these chips which arch they use. I am probably missing something. Any > help in pointing me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you again for your time. > > -LSA > > Mark Haywood wrote: > >> I'm fairly certain that the Turion X2 and the Athlon X2 6000+ are both >> K8 based which means Solaris is not able to power manage them. The >> Athlon X2 6-series that I referred to are (from what I've read) a >> rebranding of the Phenom X2. That might have changed. The bottom line is >> that Solaris does not support CPU power management of K8 based >> processors, but does support CPU power management of K10 based processors. >> >> Mark >> >> list.serv.address wrote: >> >>> Mark, >>> Thanks for the information. Do you have any information about the >>> Turion X2? Are the TL-60 and up going to have the fix? I assume that >>> the Athlon X2 6000+ and up will have the fix. Thanks. >>> >>> -LSA >>> >>> >>> Mark Haywood wrote: >>> >>> >>>> list.serv.address wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On the topic, >>>>> Does anyone know if the new Phenom (Quad core AMD brand) chips >>>>> will have the same power stepping issues as the X2 AMD chips do? >>>>> Are any of the newer AMD X2 chip revisions going to fix this issue? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The Phenom Quad-Core processors are based on the K10 >>>> microarchitecture (also known as Family 10h Processors) and should >>>> not have the TSC issues found with K8 (Family 0Fh Processors). I >>>> believe that the Athlon X2 6-series will be K10 based. Power >>>> management support for K10 processors integrated into Nevada build 80. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> There is an issue with the AMDs TSC register that won't be fixed >>>>> in the current generation of chips. So, the general suggestion was >>>>> to stay away from purchasing the current AMD X2 procesors since they >>>>> will probably never support power management. The Intels are the >>>>> ones that are getting the attention with regards to power >>>>> management, since, if I understand the issue correctly, they do not >>>>> have the problem. If the newer AMD X2 chips fix this, the story may >>>>> change. See Casper's response attached. >>>>> >>>>> -LSA >>>>> >>>>> Attached: Casper's message on 06/13/2007 09:58 AM >>>>> >>>>> > >any ideas if in the future we could see powernowd supporting AMD >>>>> X2 or Opteron dual core systems ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Never" would be my best guess, for current hardware. >>>>> >>>>> The reason is that Solaris is heavily dependent on the TSC register >>>>> and expects the value of different CPUs to be in sync to a certain >>>>> degree (fixed difference). >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, with the current Dual Core AMD CPUs, the TSC register >>>>> varies with the clock frequencies; you can see in the current powernow >>>>> code that it goes through some pretty hairy loops to "make it right" >>>>> (much to the chagrin of DTrace which bypasses the standard calls and >>>>> can't be "made right" using a loadable kernel module) >>>>> >>>>> Solaris will shortly support clock switching on Intel Core-duo CPUs; >>>>> but no clock switching at all on AMD CPUs until newer CPUs are out. >>>>> >>>>> Casper >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> laptop-discuss mailing list >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ken mays wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> By the way, >>>>>> >>>>>> I should mention the newer 3-GHz Intel X6850 quad-processor before >>>>>> the sun goes down on my little part of the world. That may be the >>>>>> current contender for the AMD Phenom. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>>> From: ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Andrew Watkins >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:40:56 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Will OpenSolaris work on a intel >>>>>> desktop Quad processor >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis, >>>>>> >>>>>> The 8-core single processor market dominates. You also have the new >>>>>> Quad-core AMD Phenom which will be officially out soon and the >>>>>> Intel Q6700 processor. A dual Quad-Core processor server will be a >>>>>> very nice machine for someone with the use. >>>>>> >>>>>> As my wallet bursts into flames, I'd look into those Quad >>>>>> processors for commodity sake... >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>>> From: Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: Andrew Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:37:27 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Will OpenSolaris work on a intel >>>>>> desktop Quad processor >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am finally biting the bullet and ditching my work machine - a 9 >>>>>>> year >>>>>>> old Ultra 10 - for a new system I thought I would go for the >>>>>>> fastest cpu >>>>>>> on the market. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> At the risk of getting into endless loops of debates about "fast" I >>>>>> just >>>>>> have to ask why you think that is the fastest processor in the market? >>>>>> >>>>>> When you get it .. run the Radiance benchmark which is heavy number >>>>>> crunching and then we shall see. Thus far no one and nothing can >>>>>> touch an >>>>>> AMD Opteron running Solaris 10. >>>>>> >>>>>> see : http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0059/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >>>>>> opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >>>>>> >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ >>>>>> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >>>>>> opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >>>>>> >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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