On Feb 5, 2008 8:31 AM, Kyle McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For instance, I understand that in the linux world 'DBUS' and 'HAL' have > come from the same (or closely connected) community that GNOME comes > from. So I don't see a problem with the GNOME team at sun being > responsible for integrating them into Solaris.
DBUS and HAL really aren't "GNOME" specific anymore though and labeling them as somehow being part of a "Linux suite" is disingenuous at best. > But when the program that manages automatically mounting removable media > was integrated and required these API's, libraries, and daemons, I think > it should have been obvious to move them to some other more 'system > level' package and not allowed to stay in large GNOME packages that have > a multitude of other package dpenedencies. Right now you can't install a > headless machine without GNOME that will still mount a CD when it's > inserted. Yes, and that work is happening to repackage them. That's a packaging issue that is being sorted out over time. > Another example, is Xscreensaver. I always used to be able install that > with only X11 installed. Now not only does GNOME have to be installed > too, So does large portions of Evolution!! What on earth does Evolution > have to do with a ScreenSaver? Again, that's a packaging issue and has absolutely nothing to do with this mysterious "Linux suite" you keep mentioning. > So, If attention is paid to dependencies, and the likely use-cases when > the files are divided among packages, I don't have much problem with > this additional software. But today it's already too much like linux for > me. The situtation described above about upgrading one piece, and being > forced to upgrade half the machine is for me here already. I can't > remove a large number of pacakgeswithout removing ones I want. I can't > add ones I want without adding a huge number of pacakge I don't want. > > And I don't accept the argument that 'Disk is cheap - Install it all!' That's why IPS is encouraging to me. The dependency models that are being considered could substantially simplify this. I encourage you to read about what they're trying to do with it. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
