>> In that case, solve the software package problem >> within Project Indiana and >> olve the trademark situation and solve the lack of a >> driver for Adaptec >> controllers and AMD PCNet etherent and solve real >> problems that affect the >> OpenSolaris project. > [...] > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/dev_solaris/qual_death_spiral/ >
This was from some internal document at Sun in which the context was regarding a "product" called Solaris. FCS quality all the time -- why is this so important? - only way to avoid the quality death spiral: - people hear the gate is broken - decide not to risk a bringover - fewer people run the latest stuff - less real-life testing - new bugs not found - quality drops further - morale tracks quality - downward spiral hard to break - recovery time can be very long how are we doing? - after a rough start, things are going well - eliminated gatekeeper putback approval - still no netinstall, but lots of bfu - high volume of change, very little breakage - several major projects (KBI, C-O-C, NFS V3, NFS/TCP, ...) - over 300 bug fixes - on495 already deployed on jurassic, updated weekly - lots more good stuff on the way Does this have any bearing on an OpenSolaris experiment ? When I install and run snv_81 on my machine that has : two AMD PCNet NICs two Adaptec SCSI Controllers one NCRS based SCSI controller a SoundBlaster Live! card and a pile of other "stuff" They all have drivers except for the sound. The pcn driver is a piece of trash and it has *always* been a trashy piece of code. So no one can tell me that it is FCS quality because it has been in the "commercial product" all the way back to Solaris 8 x86 and maybe earlier. The SCSI works great. The ata driver is a thing of beauty ( finally ) and I can read and burn to both of my DVD writers. With the OpenSolaris binary release I can not do a few things. Namely half of my disks are gone because there is no Adaptec SCSI driver. The pcn driver is absent and the open source ae driver ( Masayuki Murayama's ) is not in there so I have to add that manually via a USB Thumbdrive or maybe a CDROM. So forget using a browser or any network at all. I have said all this before over and over ad nauseum ad ignorium : http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=51198&tstart=60 Regardless ... I'm tired of writing these sort of emails. They serve no purpose and I am just some noisey guy on the other side of a wall talking to himself about things he wished that he could fix. I am going to go do useful work at blastwave.org and actually release software to the Solaris user base. That always makes me feel more like a participant in the Solaris community as opposed to an observer. Dennis Clarke ps: and I have really tried to work with IPS also but a lot of work is required to make that fly. Feel free to ask. _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org