I tend to use both wasdec and the arrow keys+pg up/dwn. Depends on what I'm doing. I remember fighting the chat bar all the time in SG1.3, where it kept stealing focus and getting filled with eeeewwwasssssddddssswwwwwwee... etc. while I was trying to pilot my vehicles I was scripting and while I was occasionally chatting (when my voice wan't working) with my group of testers.
Having the chatbar always taking focus would be just as much a disaster for me as it seems it is for you to have it releasing focus so much... Although, for me it seems to be perfect the way it is, as I haven't been fighting it in 2.0: it seems to work the way my mind expects it to. If there seems to be an issue, then it sounds like a debug setting is in order. If enough people seem interested, that can be later exposed in the UI somewhere. Ricky Cron Stardust On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Glen Canaday <gcana...@gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe it's *my* bias. I personally know of no gamers who'd use wasd who > have stayed in SL longer than a couple of months at best. > > Most of the people I have known in SL shop, go to clubs, create, RP, and > hang out, most of which requires chatting without an extra step to > switch focus. Leaving the chat bar with focus kills wasd movement, but I > can name no one who doesn't use the arrow keys for that. > > Survey? > > On 03/16/2010 07:10 PM, Tigro Spottystripes wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > that's new to me... > > > > perhaps my sample is biased due to me hanging around people with similar > > interests (i do like to play computer/video games) > > > > On 16/3/2010 19:41, Glen Canaday wrote: > > > >> That's an annoyance I'd like to specifically target in snowglobe 2. The > >> majority of resis in SL were never gamers so never got used to wasd > >> movement. > >> > >> --GC > >> > >> On 03/16/2010 03:42 PM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > >> > >>> OK, here's a design problem in the new viewer that maybe can be > >>> figured out here. > >>> > >>> From the Jira, I missed this response to one of my comments, some > >>> time ago. Apologies, I forgot to "watch" the item: > >>> > >>> From Q Linden: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Argent: the focus problem differs this time because the chat bar is > >>>> always present; we have no mechanism to make it go away, so if we > >>>> always gave it focus it would block normal keyboard use. Personally, > >>>> I'm an AWSD movement person, so I actually find this works really > >>>> well for me. It's not quite as obviously wrong as you seem to think. > >>>> However, I understand the use case and we'll talk about it internally. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> This is exactly the same problem that we had the last two times. This > >>> is exactly the same discussion we had the last two times. There are > >>> many many people who never use any of the keyboard accelerators in SL, > >>> and always have the chat bar up and in focus. The chat bar focus NEVER > >>> goes away. For us, normal keyboard use does not involve anything the > >>> chat bar blocks. > >>> > >>> So, how could this be fixed in the 2.0 viewer without causing > >>> discombobulation? > >>> > >>> An option "chat bar is the default focus"? > >>> > >>> What would that actually break? > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > >>> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > >>> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > >> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > >> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > >> > >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAkugD9sACgkQ8ZFfSrFHsmWe2ACfWXcGjN7TjfQ1jDslHQa4Pav1 > > kLsAn3I6rUdVhWj1hZaGQk7fzZ0dOE4V > > =0jWI > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > > > > _______________________________________________ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges >
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