All - I was looking for an interface or factory class like java has were you can switch between SocketFactory and SSLSocketFactory and both implement the Socket interface. Does this help? The port is no big deal but the low level asynchronous and sychrononous communication socket class seams like a problem that all ready been solved. Also, I'm a better Java programmer than C++ programmer does anyone know of a book that could help? Doug
_____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Angus Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:43 PM To: openssl-users@openssl.org Subject: Re: Newbie question This is just a shot in the dark answer -- because I don't know of a way to use SSL without using SSL :) You can get a web-site project up and running using port 443 with a web-server (like apache), without using openSSL encryption on port 443.... Then you can setup openSSL and your certs later and can encrypt communications over port 443. Bill Angus, MA http://www.psychtest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kunzman To: openssl-users@openssl.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Newbie question Can openssl be used for HTTP communication without using SSL if in the future we are going to SSL communication to our project? Doug ______________________________________________________________________ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List openssl-users@openssl.org Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]