I might be the only one who has negative feelings about the PTG/Forum split, but I suspect the foundation is suppressing negative feedback from myself and other developers so I'll express my feelings here. If there's anyone else who feels like me please reply, otherwise I'll assume I'm just an outlier.

The new structure is asking developers to travel 4 times a year (minimum) and makes it impossible to participate in 2 or more vertical projects.

I know that most of the people working on Manila have pretty limited travel budgets, and meeting 4 times a year basically guarantees that a good number of people will be remote at any given meeting. From my perspective if I'm going to be meeting with people on the phone I'd rather be on the phone myself and have everyone on equal footing.

I also normally try to participate in Cinder as well as Manila and the new PTG structures makes that impossible. I decided to try to be positive and to wait until after the PTG to make up my mind but having attended in Atlanta it was exactly as bad as I expected in terms of my ability to participate in Cinder.

I will be in Boston to try to develop a firsthand opinion of the new Forum format but as of now I'm pretty unhappy with the proposal. For Manila I'm proposing that the community either meets at PTG and skips conferences or meetings at conferences and skips PTGs going forward. I'm not going to ask everyone to travel 4 times a year.

-Ben Swartzlander
Manila PTL


On 03/07/2017 07:35 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Hi everyone,

I recently got more information about the space dedicated to the "Forum"
at the OpenStack Summit in Boston. We'll have three different types of
spaces available.

1/ "Forum" proper

There will be 3 medium-sized fishbowl rooms for cross-community
discussions. Topics for the discussions in that space will be selected
and scheduled by a committee formed of TC and UC members, facilitated by
Foundation staff members. In case you missed it, the brainstorming for
topics started last week, announced by Emilien in that email:

http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113115.html

2/ "On-boarding" rooms

We'll have two rooms set up in classroom style, dedicated to project
teams and workgroups who want to on-board new team members. Those can
for example be booked by project teams to run an introduction to their
codebase to prospective new contributors, in the hope that they will
join their team in the future. Those are not meant to do traditional
user-facing "project intro" talks -- there is space in the conference
for that. They are meant to provide the next logical step in
contributing after Upstream University and being involved on the
sidelines. It covers the missing link for prospective contributors
between attending Summit and coming to the PTG. Kendall Nelson and Mike
Perez will soon announce the details for this, including how projects
can sign up.

3/ Free hacking/meetup space

We'll have four or five rooms populated with roundtables for ad-hoc
discussions and hacking. We don't have specific plans for these -- we
could set up something like the PTG ethercalc for teams to book the
space, or keep it open. Maybe half/half.

More details on all this as they come up.
Hoping to see you there !


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