> On Mar 9, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Ben Swartzlander <b...@swartzlander.org> wrote: > > I might be the only one who has negative feelings about the PTG/Forum split, > but I suspect the foundation is suppressing negative feedback from myself and > other developers so I'll express my feelings here. If there's anyone else who > feels like me please reply, otherwise I'll assume I'm just an outlier. > > The new structure is asking developers to travel 4 times a year (minimum) and > makes it impossible to participate in 2 or more vertical projects. >
+1 There was a built in assumption to the original planning, that most projects had a mid-cycle that people travelled to. For ironic, as an example, we switched those to virtual because the number of people who could get travel approved was very low. - Jay Faulkner > I know that most of the people working on Manila have pretty limited travel > budgets, and meeting 4 times a year basically guarantees that a good number > of people will be remote at any given meeting. From my perspective if I'm > going to be meeting with people on the phone I'd rather be on the phone > myself and have everyone on equal footing. > > I also normally try to participate in Cinder as well as Manila and the new > PTG structures makes that impossible. I decided to try to be positive and to > wait until after the PTG to make up my mind but having attended in Atlanta it > was exactly as bad as I expected in terms of my ability to participate in > Cinder. > > I will be in Boston to try to develop a firsthand opinion of the new Forum > format but as of now I'm pretty unhappy with the proposal. For Manila I'm > proposing that the community either meets at PTG and skips conferences or > meetings at conferences and skips PTGs going forward. I'm not going to ask > everyone to travel 4 times a year. > > -Ben Swartzlander > Manila PTL > > > On 03/07/2017 07:35 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I recently got more information about the space dedicated to the "Forum" >> at the OpenStack Summit in Boston. We'll have three different types of >> spaces available. >> >> 1/ "Forum" proper >> >> There will be 3 medium-sized fishbowl rooms for cross-community >> discussions. Topics for the discussions in that space will be selected >> and scheduled by a committee formed of TC and UC members, facilitated by >> Foundation staff members. In case you missed it, the brainstorming for >> topics started last week, announced by Emilien in that email: >> >> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113115.html >> >> 2/ "On-boarding" rooms >> >> We'll have two rooms set up in classroom style, dedicated to project >> teams and workgroups who want to on-board new team members. Those can >> for example be booked by project teams to run an introduction to their >> codebase to prospective new contributors, in the hope that they will >> join their team in the future. Those are not meant to do traditional >> user-facing "project intro" talks -- there is space in the conference >> for that. They are meant to provide the next logical step in >> contributing after Upstream University and being involved on the >> sidelines. It covers the missing link for prospective contributors >> between attending Summit and coming to the PTG. Kendall Nelson and Mike >> Perez will soon announce the details for this, including how projects >> can sign up. >> >> 3/ Free hacking/meetup space >> >> We'll have four or five rooms populated with roundtables for ad-hoc >> discussions and hacking. We don't have specific plans for these -- we >> could set up something like the PTG ethercalc for teams to book the >> space, or keep it open. Maybe half/half. >> >> More details on all this as they come up. >> Hoping to see you there ! >> > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
